Railing: Non-continuous railing issue

[-FDC-]

Hi, I want to create a simple railing but I have a problem with the non continuous rail. One top rail at 1200mm Balusters justified from the center with a distance of 900mm. End and start post: none. One (Non-Continuous) rail structure at 600mm. I want the top rail be "full length" but the non continuous rail should stop at the last baluster (now it has the same length as the top rail). Is this possible? Thanks, Filip

[ToanDN]

Set the Start and End post spaces to 0.  Tab select the top rail, edit rail, edit path and stretch it ends.

[-FDC-]

Thanks for the quick response !

Sorry for my dull questions but these are my first steps with railings.

I did set the space for the start and end post to 0.

Although i don't use a start and end post (none was set) and I think this is the reason of my problem but I want all the posts to have an equally spacing, starting from the center.

Tab selected the top rail, edit railing, edit path but I cannot edit it (looks like it is frozen, probably locked to the settings).

I can draw extra path segments but I cannot change the "Original" path of the top rail (which seems logical to me because it is controlled by the railing settings).

Anyway, top rail is fine like it is.

I only want the secondary rail (the non continuous rail structure in the middle) to stop at the last posts (or balusters).

The last posts are not the start and end post though!

Last posts are the first and the last of the equally divided ones.

Thanks,

Filip

[ToanDN]

You are right that you can draw extensions to the top rail path, not stretching it. That is the way to go. The reason is that you cannot set the non continuous rails shorter than the railing sketch.

[-FDC-]

Thanks!

Now I know it just isn't possible and I don't have to search for a solution.

Makes railing unusable for me though (for the moment).

[ToanDN]

Is it not what you want?

[-FDC-]

Yes, exactly !

[ToanDN]

Then do what I suggested. Instead of shortening the lower rail, lengthening the top rail. Adapt and overcome.

[-FDC-]

I totally agree that we have to adapt and I want to.

But, the poles have to be at a distance of 900mm and the railing has to be symmetric (left and right end should be the same, see attachment).

I don't see how I can do this without suppressing start and end pole.

Regards and thanks,

Filip

[-FDC-]

I think the only way I can achieve this is to do it manually (with a predefined path and a multiple of 900 as a host) and then use your suggested solution.

Like this I have to do it for each railing though.

[ToanDN]

See attached.

[-FDC-]

ToanDN,

Thanks for your help so far.

I managed to "model" the railing. Like you said I had to adapt and had to create different types of railings).
Not perfect but enough (it is not for construction, yet).



One important question though:

If I cannot set the non continuous railing shorter than the railing, why doesn't it react the same?
Why doesn't it fillet (or am I missing something = what am I doing wrong)?



Another smaller question .

I understand why Revit is doing this but I don't like it.

Because of the Slope the height of the extended top rail is different.
In this case I would prefer that the extended part of the rail would follow the slope instead of going to horizontal.

Then another issue which I don't think is possible (with the clients demands).

Because of the "adaptation" I doubt if I can extend my non continuous rail in this case (should be a joint in the railing because the construction parts are moving differently).



Last picture are the Clients demands:

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Why do you draw them as separate railings?  You know a railing can have more than one segment, right?

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@Anonymous wrote:

If I cannot set the non continuous railing shorter than the railing, why doesn't it react the same?
Why doesn't it fillet (or am I missing something = what am I doing wrong)?

Draw as one railing with two straight segments and a curve segment.

Another smaller question .

I understand why Revit is doing this but I don't like it.

Because of the Slope the height of the extended top rail is different.
In this case I would prefer that the extended part of the rail would follow the slope instead of going to horizontal.

Same here, draw as one railing with multiple segements.

Then another issue which I don't think is possible (with the clients demands).

Because of the "adaptation" I doubt if I can extend my non continuous rail in this case (should be a joint in the railing because the construction parts are moving differently).

here too, draw as one railing with multiple straight segments and a curve segment turning corner.

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[-FDC- · Accepted solution]

Why do you draw them as separate railings?  You know a railing can have more than one segment, right?

Sorry, I did mean seperate type of railings with seperate types of endings.
The railing in the photo below is indeed one railing with 3 segments.

If I cannot set the non continuous railing shorter than the railing, why doesn't it react the same?
Why doesn't it fillet (or am I missing something = what am I doing wrong)?

Draw as one railing with two straight segments and a curve segment.

This was what I did wrong! Because of the fillet in the top rail I assumed Revit would do the same for the non continuous rail.
I did not think about it to use a curved segment.
Thanks for that !

Another smaller question .

I understand why Revit is doing this but I don't like it.

Because of the Slope the height of the extended top rail is different.
In this case I would prefer that the extended part of the rail would follow the slope instead of going to horizontal.

Same here, draw as one railing with multiple segements.

Did that (see picture below) but I don't like it a lot.
I prefer two seperate railings but I can live with it.

Then another issue which I don't think is possible (with the clients demands).

Because of the "adaptation" I doubt if I can extend my non continuous rail in this case (should be a joint in the railing because the construction parts are moving differently).

here too, draw as one railing with multiple straight segments and a curve segment turning corner.

Curved segment has been done but there should be a joint in the railing and therefore seperate railings.

Anyway, I think the clients demand to have posts every 900mm is not possible so I switched to "spread pattern to fit" in baluster placement instead of "Center". Like this spacing is max. 900mm instead of fixed 900mm.
It would be nice though to have more control for the placement of the corner posts (set to none for the moment).

Thanks a lot for your help !

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Hello @-FDC- @ToanDN, I am having similar issue which I couldn't figure out.

I want to have a continuous rail like you've shown without ending at the balusters. I want the top rail and the non continuous rail to have same length without the non continuous rail stopping before like this 
 

Also, How can I customize where to place the baluster on the stairs? I want one baluster for every two steps on the stairs. Would I be able to do that in revit?

Also,

is this shape possible for us to achieve in revit?

Also, is there a way we can place balusters where we want like we draw top rail by selecting it by tab?

Thanks in advance!