"Wall Joins" command shows grayed out options bar

[Anonymous]

Hello Everyone,

I have a really wierd problem. When using the "Wall Joins"-command on some of my wall joins it doesn't work. Please have a look:

Here In this pic I just hover the wall join. I Get the square. But when I click here the square disappears and nothing is getting selected. The optionbar stays gray.

How ever when I choose another join, I click and the join is selected and the option bar is available: 

In case #2 where it works t is the same wall. In the case where it doesn't they are different. But those wall types allow me to select their joinings at other places.........

I am confussed...

Any help is appreciated.

[Anonymous]

Hello Everyone,

I have a really wierd problem. When using the "Wall Joins"-command on some of my wall joins it doesn't work. Please have a look:

Here In this pic I just hover the wall join. I Get the square. But when I click here the square disappears and nothing is getting selected. The optionbar stays gray.

How ever when I choose another join, I click and the join is selected and the option bar is available: 

In case #2 where it works t is the same wall. In the case where it doesn't they are different. But those wall types allow me to select their joinings at other places.........

I am confussed...

Any help is appreciated.

[Alisder.Brown]

Brainmaniac

If you could upload that particular portion of your file so we could have a look it would be helpfull. Also, what version of Revit are you using?

Cheers

[Alisder.Brown]

Brainmaniac

If you could upload that particular portion of your file so we could have a look it would be helpfull. Also, what version of Revit are you using?

Cheers

[Anonymous]

Hey Alisder!

Thank you for your answer.

ok I attach the file. Please change the Design Option toggle to "Pusselbitar" and then zoom to objects.

There you can see one of the problem joints in a circle.

All help appreciated!

Best regards

EDIT: file http://expirebox.com/download/d60387c19fcf0b5120de3ee8d37ab41d.html

[Anonymous]

Hey Alisder!

Thank you for your answer.

ok I attach the file. Please change the Design Option toggle to "Pusselbitar" and then zoom to objects.

There you can see one of the problem joints in a circle.

All help appreciated!

Best regards

EDIT: file http://expirebox.com/download/d60387c19fcf0b5120de3ee8d37ab41d.html

[Alisder.Brown · Accepted solution]

I think this is to do with the fact there is only one possible wall join here, as it is default set to "Allow Join" it apply the only join available and wont select as there is nothing to change to. If you want it to "butt" you need to pull the wall back, then use the wall join tool, and set it to "Disallow Join" join the wall. 

I may be wrong about this but this is what it seems like. 

You may already know this, but ill mention it anyways.

Wall joins work on a priority of materials, which is set inside the type properties for each wall (same as floors, roofs and ceilings)

When you go into the wall type properties, then into edit the structure, you will see the "Function" column. Here you have a drop down available with a list of options to select... Notice the number in the square brackets here [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] this is the materials priority. 1 being the highest priority, and 5 being the lowest. So at any given join, a number 1 material will ALWAYS join with the other number 1 material, 2 will join to 2 (unless a number 1 material has priority, 3 to 3, 4 to 4 etc.) Number 1 materials will cut through lower priority materials to connect to the other number 1 material (or the highest priority material in the wall make up)

So if you want a different wall join, try creating a new wall type and changing its priority's of each material to test this. (Don't do it on an existing wall, as it will change all wall/floor/roof/ceiling joins, test it first on a new type)

Hope this helps

[Alisder.Brown · Accepted solution]

I think this is to do with the fact there is only one possible wall join here, as it is default set to "Allow Join" it apply the only join available and wont select as there is nothing to change to. If you want it to "butt" you need to pull the wall back, then use the wall join tool, and set it to "Disallow Join" join the wall. 

I may be wrong about this but this is what it seems like. 

You may already know this, but ill mention it anyways.

Wall joins work on a priority of materials, which is set inside the type properties for each wall (same as floors, roofs and ceilings)

When you go into the wall type properties, then into edit the structure, you will see the "Function" column. Here you have a drop down available with a list of options to select... Notice the number in the square brackets here [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] this is the materials priority. 1 being the highest priority, and 5 being the lowest. So at any given join, a number 1 material will ALWAYS join with the other number 1 material, 2 will join to 2 (unless a number 1 material has priority, 3 to 3, 4 to 4 etc.) Number 1 materials will cut through lower priority materials to connect to the other number 1 material (or the highest priority material in the wall make up)

So if you want a different wall join, try creating a new wall type and changing its priority's of each material to test this. (Don't do it on an existing wall, as it will change all wall/floor/roof/ceiling joins, test it first on a new type)

Hope this helps

[chrisplyler]

Well...just for example...nobody in the history of ever constructed a mitered T intersection.

If you have an existing mitered corner, and you'll be adding a new wall coming off of that intersection...well then model a mitered corner and then draw the new wall right up to it with the "disallow join" option.

[chrisplyler]

Well...just for example...nobody in the history of ever constructed a mitered T intersection.

If you have an existing mitered corner, and you'll be adding a new wall coming off of that intersection...well then model a mitered corner and then draw the new wall right up to it with the "disallow join" option.

[Anonymous]

Thank you! This worked well!

[Anonymous]

Thank you! This worked well!