Problem with Place on Face Family
At this point in the thread I think the original question/problem has been resolved. You now have a urinal family that can be placed on a face, not just a wall. Using Copy/Monitor is part of the technique to convert a wall based family to a face based. I have no idea why you are using Copy/Monitor in the video you shared. It seems irrelevant now. You should be able to place the urinal family in any project file you need it in now.
You also ignored the warnings about the urinal position being different from the Monitored version. The point of having your copy of the fixture is to alert you if theirs changes, as well as allowing you to connect to the fixture with pipe etc. While it is possible to change yours so they'll change theirs it is better to let one side manage the element, so each team respects and understands who is responsible for design elements.
As @barthbradley explained, the issue of moving the urinal up is the View Range settings.
- Imagine standing on the first floor of a building and then someone moves the urinal up to the second floor. You can no longer see the urinal in the first floor because it is beyond your ability to see it, the structure of the building prevents you from seeing it. In this case Revit is looking down (in plan views). Imagine you tilt your head so your face is parallel to the floor. Your eyes can only see from your face down to the floor, nothing above you is visible to you. If you stand on personnel lift and do the same but raise the lift slowly, the higher you go the more you can see beneath you. Where your eyes are is the cut plane.
- The bottom plane adjusts how far down you'd like Revit to include elements in the view and draw them with projection lineweight (usually thinner).
- The Top plane adjusts how far up Revit should include elements that also intersect the cut plane. Some categories behave differently in this area like casework or MEP elements (depending on view discipline).
- View Depth adjusts how far you want to look below you. Imagine standing on a balcony overlooking the ground floor below. If that balcony is on the 4th floor Revit will only show you down to the 4th floor. But if you increase the depth to see all the way down to the ground floor then elements at lower levels will appear. Elements that exist between the bottom plane and View Depth are drawn with the <Beyond> linestyle.
- Each plan oriented view (and RCP) have their own View Range settings. Plans usually cut at 1200mm and RCP usually cut just below the shortest door assembly so opening can be seen (door panel and swings turned off).
Steve Stafford
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