Problem Section View

Problem Section View

mattpick10
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Problem Section View

mattpick10
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Can anybody help

I have a mechanical family that shows in a section view even if the section line is not cutting through the family ( see attached Image )

I think the problem may be that I have a nested element in the family with a reference line outside of the family.

However it still does not explain the section view I am getting as the reference line is as per the attached image.

 

 

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Reference.JPG

 Thanks 

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barthbradley
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Let's look at the family. Post it.  

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mattpick10
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Attached Family 

Thanks 

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barthbradley
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Change the Category. Try Generic Model and see the magic happen.  

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mattpick10
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Barth

Why is it happening though. If I move the section line just past where the reference lines are in the family then it works as it should. This is about 2.5 meters away from the family element though. Is there a work around as all my schedules are set up

thanks

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barthbradley
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oops, my bad. I was thinking Plan View - not Section.  Let me get back to you.  

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mattpick10
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Ok thankyou

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barthbradley
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I know what's causing it. The Light Source.  Make it a Shared Family. 

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mattpick10
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Ok thanks 

will this mess up any of my schedules etc 

so I need to edit the light family change it to shared and the load it back in 

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barthbradley
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@mattpick10 wrote:

Ok thanks 

will this mess up any of my schedules etc 

so I need to edit the light family change it to shared and the load it back in 


 

 

I suppose if your Project had a Light Fixture Schedule, then making the Light Family Shared would add more Lights to the Project's Light Fixture Schedule.  That doesn't "mess" it up though.  If you don't want the Light counted in the Light Fixture Schedule, then filter it out of the Schedule. No biggie.  

 

We good now?

 

 

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syman2000
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I notice there is a reference line in the model. When I removed it, the object don't show up in section.

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barthbradley
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That's odd.  Ref. Lines/Planes should have an impact, but in lieu of deleting it (I'm assuming it's important or it wouldn't be  there), maybe changing it's "Is Reference" status to "Not a Reference" would be better.   

 

...or maybe change it's Work Plane (e.g. move it to a Work Plane in the middle of the geometry). 🤔

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syman2000
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Yea that what I thought but it seems to be impacting it. I run into issue with reference line when I create title block with over extended reference line. It cause the titleblock plot to shift because Revit assume those reference line start from start of reference line. Perhaps Autodesk should make all reference line behave like reference plane.

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mattpick10
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The shared light seems to do the trick, not sure how this has an impact on the section view,

I did try to move the reference lines but didn't have an success I have also tried to change the reference line to not a reference but that messed up the family 

It my bad I should of ensured it was on the centre reference plane.

 

Thanks for the help

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mattpick10
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yes that seem to be the problem but not sure why the section view show the entire family profile when the reference line is just a couple of line, Barth's solution seems to work be making the lights a shared family and loading it back into the nested family. Not sure how to move the reference lines any way a changing them to 'not a reference' messes up the family

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barthbradley
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So are we good now?   A solution is found and the thread is closed? 

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syman2000
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The reference line with parameters show in your model. When I highlight this in a group, you notice there are two dots. If I remove this, the dot disappear and you don't see the object in section. Right now that dot is treated like invisible boundary and will display the entire model. So be careful next time where you placed the reference line or you will end up with the same issue.

 

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