Plumbing Fixture Counts

[MS_jkimc65]

My office is re-vamping their Office Standards.  I have set up a plumbing fixture schedule to get totals of water closets, and lavatories.  I set up a shared parameter so that I can assign the fixture to Men or Women.  In addition I set up a filters to color the fixtures for each gender.  What I would like to do is extract those counts into a Generic Annotation Family in which I set up for Code Analysis.  Part of that Code Analysis, I have a section for Plumbing Fixture Counts for Water Closets and Lavatories for both men and women, "Required" and "Provided".  Currently the "Required" are manually entered based on an "Occupant Load Schedule" that I have set up and the "Provided" is manually entered by counting the fixtures within the restrooms.  Within the "Code Analysis" I would like for the "Provided" fixture count to be automatic based on assigning the fixture either to "Men" and "Women" and whether I add or remove fixtures from the project.  I am assuming this can be done, my initial thought is that I would need to set up additional shared parameters?  Is this possible within Revit, Dynamo (very limited experience with Dynamo)?  Thoughts or Ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[RDAOU]

@MS_jkimc65 

A Generic Annotation does not have a live link or relation to a 3D family in Revit. It is a dumb 2D family text lines and labels...If you want to do what you are doing, you will need to do it using Dynamo. No Shared parameters required just an instance parameter in the Generic Annotation.

For the Dynamo graph you shouldnt need more than the OOTB Revit nodes and math nodes ... However, I do not see what advantage that gives over doing it manually (well except that you wont have to open the sheet or drafting view to fill it in)

[Alfredo_Medina · Accepted solution]

In my opinion: there's no need to create additional parameters or to use scripts for something like this. Revit already provides a parameter called WFU (Water Fixture Units) in plumbing fixture families. The value of that parameter can be tagged and can be scheduled. For the male or female designation, you could use the Comments parameter of the fixture, and enter F or M. Now you can schedule your fixtures, group by Comments, then find subtotals of plumbing fixtures. For the view filters, you could filter by the value of Comments. For the tag, you need to customize a plumbing fixture tag to include Type, WFU and Comments. Something like this:

Then, tag your plumbing fixtures, and enter M or F for each fixture.

[iainsavage]

Why not create a second plumbing fixture schedule and title it as Code Analysis and include the fields that you mention? You can also include calculated parameters to work out the difference between required and actual and you can use conditional formatting to colour cells with a traffic light system to show compliance or failure.

[iainsavage]

WFU is waste fixture units which is a diversity factor for calculating the water flow from the fixture to the drainage system.

It isn’t the same as the quantity of plumbing fixtures.

[ToanDN]

Add room info to your fixture schedule to get men/women association.

[Alfredo_Medina]

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@iainsavage wrote:

WFU is waste fixture units which is a diversity factor for calculating the water flow from the fixture to the drainage system.

It isn’t the same as the quantity of plumbing fixtures.

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Of course, fixture units is not the same as quantity of plumbing fixtures. I know that. Can you tell me where in my previous message I said that both things were the same?

[RDAOU]

Hmmm!!! And all along I thought the question was how to automatically transfer values from a live schedule to a generic annotation...

[iainsavage]

I think that was the question which I interpreted as meaning that their would be a “block” which displayed the information for the whole project - hence my alternative suggestion of just using a schedule.

Not sure how it ended up being a tagging issue showing the diversified flow factor for the drainage connection.

But @Alfredo_Medina is a legend so who am I to argue?

[RDAOU]

He is a cool guy and  I don't see any argument there...Misunderstandings happen 🙂

PS: Should the OP need further help linking the Live schedules to the Gen. Annotation in the Drafting view, he/she should ask.

Cheers...All 3 

[iainsavage]

@Alfredo_Medina 

I apologise if I misunderstood your solution.

I thought from the original question that the intention was to count appliances of different types and gender and then compare these to the quantities required by building code.

I didn’t understand how the waste fixture unit value helped with that.

There was no offence intended, as I said you are a Revit legend.

[Alfredo_Medina]

@iainsavage , @RDAOU 

My apologies. I was wrong and you were right in that the user was not needing to count waste fixture units (WFU) of the plumbing fixtures. However, the rest of my answer was useful to the user anyway, as I see that s/he marked the post as the solution, because my answer contains instructions about how to label the plumbing fixtures with Male or Female and how to use that parameter in schedules and view filters, which was part of the question. Sorry for my misunderstanding on that part.