Phasing difficulties - should I start my own phasing & filters?

[fortywebs]

Hi, I can't get the phasing to show what I need. All I need to show is existing, demolished, and new construction. This might sound simple but some elements involve knocking a hole through a wall, so only part of the wall gets demolished, and part becomes new construction. On my existing plan I want to show existing walls retained and existing walls which are later going to to be shown demolished, but not yet. Next I want to show the existing walls retained with the demolish walls hatched. Next I want to show the proposed plan which shows the existing walls retained, gets rid of the demolished walls and shows the proposed new construction.

It is more complicated than the options given in the phasing. They assume a simple project.

Problems encountered

I wanted to use the wall opening tool for the part of the wall i wanted to get rid of because it gives a clean opening. however, it has its limitations. I was not able to join the end of the wall if it had an opening there, so i had to pull the opening back away from the join so that the corner would look right in 3D. Also, it is not possible to show that opening as a "demolish". But I wanted the opening because it gives a clean opening compared to having different wall elements that will draw visible lines on the elevation.

Eventually I gave up on the idea of having a wall opening there and decided to try to make the entire alteration walls as existing, and the entire walls again as proposed. This allowed me to show both these walls by flicking the switch. But in New Construction i still want to see a level not given "existing walls retained", which are not affected by the alteration and are not demolished.

To make that work I started thinking the only workaround would be to create the existing as I want it and then finish the sheet, pdf it at that point. Then go back in and mess about with the phasing to get the proposed to look right, and then pdf that. Surely that's not how it should work. I'm trying to set up a template file that does things in advance of new projects.

This is only a small house and a relatively simple side extension alteration but it is taking a lot of time. 

Does anyone have a foolproof phasing setup that will work? Shall I try setting up my own phasing filters and phases?

Thanks

[bin]

No, just use the Window-Square Opening.rfa

[fortywebs]

It's not in my system - Revit LT 2020

[bin]

It's  in the other post, or can you create window family using Lite?

[fortywebs]

Thanks - you pinned it for me in the other post - it's brilliant! I was at the stage where I was going to make 2 files - existing and proposed. You saved my bacon!

i think I can create window families using Lite, but I'm not at that stage yet. The file you gave me has worked. 

Are there a similar files for openings in a roofs and floors? I have to do a loft conversion next and need to cut holes in existing roofs (and floor for the new stair), demolish them and then show proposed - exactly like the wall thing.

Thanks again

[loboarch]

You should review these 3 topics in the help it may shed some light on what is going on.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2021/ENU/?guid=GUID-BFB8B3D4-6BFB-429B-AF94-7731D9FBCC1F

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2021/ENU/?guid=GUID-FE4C8D4D-F51D-486F-81E9-53A530E833A2

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2021/ENU/?guid=GUID-90AF29D6-AF27-4447-B4BF-891D7BAEE47F

[bin]

Have a read of the links in @loboarch 's post and have a good understanding of Phase and Phase Filter. It's very important.

I don't think any of the openings under the Architecture Tab works with Phase. Correct me if I am wrong.

Maybe you can create a face based generic family with a void cutting the host.  Then you can place it on any surface (inc. Wall, roof, ceiling, floor etc.)