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Parameterize arc by mid-ordinate

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dbroad
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Parameterize arc by mid-ordinate

I tried to create an arc with a fixed mid-ordinate (rise) distance and a flexible chord distance and that proved much more difficult than I was expecting.  Is it my imagination or can you not align the midpoint of an arc with a reference plane?  I couldn't even dimension to the midpoint of the arc.

 

I ended up creating a formula for the radius but would like for it to have been simpler.

Radius = ½  (rise² + ¼ chord²) / rise

 

Was there a simpler way that I missed?

Architect, Registered NC, VA, SC, & GA.
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FAIR59
als Antwort auf: dbroad

use this simple geometry:

 

red and orange lines :  reference line ( or invisible lines)

blue line : symbolic line

 

90 degree angles locked

 

arc_by_mid_ordinate.JPG 

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dbroad
als Antwort auf: FAIR59

Thanks.  That also looks about the same level of difficulty but is an excellent demonstration of how to go the task geometrically.  You've had to add 6 lines/reference lines and about 9 constraints

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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: dbroad

To constrain the mid of the arc to a reference plane - use the Split tool to split the arc in the middle, and lock the resulting endpoints to the reference plane.


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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: dbroad

Love this challenge.  Both approaches above work well.  here is another one using an Adaptive family.  You need to TAB to select the Points to adjust them.

 

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dbroad
als Antwort auf: Sahay_R

Yes. But it's ridiculously hard to use the split element tool on an arc with any level of accuracy since none of the snaps on arcs work during the split element tool.  In order to get that method to work, I had to temporarily draw a model line and then trim the arc to the proper position and then mirror about the middle reference plane.  I then had to lock the tangency between the two arcs.

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dbroad
als Antwort auf: ToanDN

@ToanDN

Thanks. An interesting use of adaptive family.  Thanks for sharing.  Here is a family using a formula approach, if anyone is interested.

Architect, Registered NC, VA, SC, & GA.
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Viveka_CD
als Antwort auf: dbroad

Hi @dbroad

 

Thanks for sharing this family with a formula approach!

 

Please mark any posts that help with "Accept as Solution".this will help the community find answers quickly to similar issues.

 

Regards,

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dbroad
als Antwort auf: Viveka_CD

Thanks again for everyone's help!  Next time I have to do this, I will probably try the split arc approach.

Architect, Registered NC, VA, SC, & GA.

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