Mullions with different materials

Mullions with different materials

Marcus.Isacsson
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Mullions with different materials

Marcus.Isacsson
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Hi fellas!

Is it somehow possible to have several materials for curtain wall mullions?

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Ilic.Andrej
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You can have several curtain wall mullion types....



Andrej Ilić

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Marcus.Isacsson
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@Ilic.Andrej wrote:

You can have several curtain wall mullion types....


Not what we're aiming for. We want to show the same window with different materials for different parts.
Do we have to create a window family instead?

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Ilic.Andrej
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When working in project, hover over the curtain wall, hit tab to select the mullion, click to unpin it and then you can change its type from the type selector.



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Marcus.Isacsson
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@Ilic.Andrej wrote:

When working in project, hover over the curtain wall, hit tab to select the mullion, click to unpin it and then you can change its type from the type selector.


We want a different color for the inside and outside of the mullion. 

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Yien_Chao
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paint it?

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Marcus.Isacsson
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@Yien_Chao wrote:

paint it?


Could be a solution.
Feels so unneccessary and time consuming though, when we want this to done the same way for 100+ windows. 

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Ilic.Andrej
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It really depends on the size and purpose of the glazing. If it has only two or three divisions, I don't see a reason not to do a window family. But if its something large for which you need the flexibility of curtain walls, maybe you could model two curtain walls and stack them together. One could have only the exterior mullion caps, while the other one could have the interior mullions and glass panels....



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Message 9 of 21

Yien_Chao
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which sides do you want to paint actually? does it have silicon for exterior or it is with caping?

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Marcus.Isacsson
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@Yien_Chao wrote:

which sides do you want to paint actually? does it have silicon for exterior or it is with caping?


For those it's a cap. 

The main question is if it's possible at all to have curtain wall mullions where different parts have different colors. 

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Yien_Chao
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i dont think so. its an extrusion from a single close profile and you cannot assign material to profil, but the whole extrusion.

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Message 12 of 21

martijn_pater
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If you want to have a cw mullion with two-sided material, only way to do that is to paint it I think. Since there are no different parts.

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ToanDN
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You could model the mullions in the custom panels.
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Marcus.Isacsson
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@martijn_pater wrote:

If you want to have a cw mullion with two-sided material, only way to do that is to paint it I think. Since there are no different parts.


I just tried the paint tool, didn't get it to work (curtan wall mullions)

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Marcus.Isacsson
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@ToanDN wrote:
You could model the mullions in the custom panels.

Was thinking about this as well. Are custom panels allowed to contain several materials?
How would the inside part of the mullion be modeled in a custom panel? Just a thin "sheet"?

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ToanDN
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A custom panel can consist of different surfaces that you can paint them with materials or material parameters (for the flexibility to change materials in the project). 

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Message 17 of 21

martijn_pater
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You're right, it was the only way I could think of that might work with mullions. With panel family you can add multiple material parameters though.

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martijn_pater
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You could possibly add another CW in front of the other creating a double mullion for front/back? Upvoted the suggestion on the idea forum for painting mullions, made sense to me to be able to do so anyway.;)

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Phil.Tu
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Thats what I am thinking too. But I wish Revit could provide better options for this situation.

 

Thanks 

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Message 20 of 21

bneuSPJXV
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In my use case, we want vertical fritted glass fins/louvers cantilevering from the center of the mullion from an integral mullion clip. This is used often enough, I'm sure there is an obvious solution, but I can only think of adding an extension in the mullion profile, but then it's assigned the same material as the mullion. Thoughts? 

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