Move internal origin / startup location

[tl]

Hello,

Is it possible to move the internal origin / startup location in revit without having to fysically move the entire building With all Components?

For example, I have a revit file where the internal origin / startup location is in the upper right corner over my building, but I want to move it to the lower left corner South of my building. Is there any way of doing this without having to Select all Components and moving the Whole building? Because this is quite risky when it is a big Project. I tryed about everything. Moving the PBP pinned and unpinned, moving the survey point pinned and unpinned. When I move the PBP pinned, it seems the internal origin follows. This is very frustrating, as I often open old files where the PBP,SP and internal origin is up and right of the building. I want to have it South and left of my building.

[Iev60047]

So is this issue still open? I'd like to find a methodical approach to move the internal origin in the x-y plane. This is strange, because I was able to move the project in the z-plane relative to the internal origin (I think). I am trying to copy-paste from one project to another (incomplete models of both I hoped to combine), and I naively assumed that I could easily change the internal origin to accomplish using the paste aligned to whatever. 

For that specific scenario, could we get an official response that a work-around is required? Unless I am missing some resource on how to do this.

[RobDraw]

This thread has a solution. 

The internal origin cannot be moved.

[Base12]

Yes, 0,0 is a place in the drawing environment that cannot be moved, but it is not always the internal origin.  The internal origin can most certainly be moved to any position you want as well as the survey point and project base point.  See screen shots.  Initially none of them at at 0,0, but I move them all to 0,0 in a couple of steps.  Turn Hidden Objects on if you can't see the internal origin axes.

Note: after you move the internal origin the survey point will move with it.  Simply select it and reset its values back to 0,0 (or whatever you want) and it jumps back.

[RobDraw]

Moving the project is not equal to moving the internal origin.

[boyd_johnson]

Autodesk...Please fix (or develop a work-around) this!

[josegama]

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[josegama]

There is a way to relocate the modeled elements relative to the internal origin - which is the same as relocating the internal origin in relation to the modeled elements - without selecting and moving all the elements:
In the "Position" button, both "Mirror Project" and "Rotate Project North" change the relation between the elements and the internal origin. 
With a series ou rotations of the project north, using the project base point as a pivot its possible to relocate the internal origin to the desired point.

As a side note, it's hard to believe that Autodesk has a rotate and mirror command to move all the elements and not a move command.

 

[gFrank_Form4]

This reply is in response to John's message claiming that he can spot buildings that have been designed with Revit: Would you have said the same thing about buildings designed with pencil and ruler? Just because the ruler was straight.... ? (Well we also had elaborate curved rulers but you get the point) Each time there is a new tool humans are suspicious about completely disregarding how their previous tools shape what they do. 

[gFrank_Form4]

This reply is in response to John's message claiming that he can spot buildings designed with Revit: Would you have said the same about buildings designed with pencil and ruler? Just because the ruler was straight? (Well we also had elaborate curved rulers but you get the point) Each time there is a new tool humans are suspicious about completely disregarding how their previous tools shape what they do.