Make an object not cut by view range?

Make an object not cut by view range?

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Make an object not cut by view range?

Anonymous238
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I want to show a toposolid in my foundation plan but I want to keep the current view range which is below the toposolid. Is there a way to have objects not be cut by the view range?

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Basam.Yousif
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Hmmm. I need to test this to figure out a good way, but I wonder if increasing the thickness of the toposolid would be a good idea.

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RDAOU
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@Anonymous238 

 

A toposolid is a cuttable element category; therefore, unless it is modeled within a non-cuttable family (i.e., a category that always displays as a projection), it will be cut by the view's cutting plane.

 

One easy and hassle-free workaround would be to:

  • Create two views one showing topo and the second showing foundations
  • then overlay them on a sheet

 

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Basam.Yousif
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So the wall and foundations are in Lower level while the topo is in the upper.


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You can use with the view 'underlay setting'

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Or, increase the thickness of the toposolid

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arq_42
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Is this what you're referring to?

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Do you need to maintain the view range by cutting through the foundation, but still see the projected toposolid as if it were a top floor plan?

I'd do it with View/Create/Plan Views/Plan Region.


Since you can't create a nested loop, I've done a little trick by connecting them with a 1mm gap.

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What I still don't know is why when modifying the sub-elements the corresponding layer is no longer seen in plan, and instead it appears as if you cut the upper layer

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arq_42
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Okay, I'm testing and I don't know if this is a bug or what.

If the toposolid has a flat surface, it is sectioned by the height marked in the view range, showing the hatch of the corresponding material.

But if the sub-elements are modified (which is normal, since that's what toposolids are for), it doesn't show the hatch or the texture it cuts, but rather the texture/hatch of the topmost layer.

Section:

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Plan View:

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Basam.Yousif
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Interesting!

Would you be able to share the test model to play with?

 

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ToanDN
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Do you mean you want to show the contour lines instead of the actual cut?

 

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GHASEM_ARIYANI
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In Revit, you cannot exclude system families or some loadable families from View Range rules — they will always be affected by the cut plane.

However, if your only goal is to prevent the View Range from affecting a Toposolid, there’s a workaround you can try:

  1. Export the Toposolid to DWG (AutoCAD format)

  2. Import it into a Generic Model or Special Equipment family

  3. Load that family into your project

Since the imported geometry is now part of a loadable family that’s not cut by the view range, it will appear in your plan regardless of the current cut plane.

Note: This is not a Revit-standard workflow and should be used cautiously, but in some cases, it can help solve visibility issues effectively.

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arq_42
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I didn't save the file, but I recreated it.
Revit 26, architectural template.

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There are three toposolids:
On the left, a flat one.
In the center, one composed of two loops, but only the surface of the left loop is modified.
On the right, another with a flat surface, at a different height, to cut through another layer.


In my tests, I have seen that:

  • In "Detail Level: Coarse," the bug does not occur, but if the toposolid is being cut, it appears with the "Earth" pattern (even if it doesn't even have that material in its composition). 
  • arq_42_2-1745392452654.png
  • In Medium or Fine Detail Level, the bug appears, showing the cutting pattern of the topmost layer of the toposolids with a modified surface, but in the others, the corresponding layer is correctly displayed, regardless of whether there is a Plan Region or not.
  • arq_42_3-1745392567951.png

     

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Message 11 of 16

Anonymous238
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Yes I wanted to show the contour lines of the toposolid as it would appear 10 feet higher than the current view's cut plane. I did this by creating a plan region around the exterior of the building and had to fake some line work. Wish there was an option to have objects have their own view range

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will_young
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My workaround has been to create the contour labels, turn off the toposolid contours, and show the contour lines on a linked dwg exported from Civil 3d.

I agree, it's hard to imagine a situation where anyone would want the toposolid cut off at the level of the view. Ideally all the contours would be shown by default.

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will_young
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I've raised as an idea, please vote if you agree.

 

Toposolid contours should not be cut by view range - Autodesk Community

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arq_42
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Ok, reading @will_young 's comment from 04-06-2025 in ideas forum, I think I understand what my confusion was.

To continue trying to help, I now understand that the goal is to show the foundation AND see the contour lines of the entire toposolid (as if nothing had been built yet?) in the same view. That is, you're merging the foundation from the constructed phase with the terrain from the existing phase.

 

First of all, work correctly with the phases. The toposolid has a tool called "graded region" to create copies of it in the different phases, and to be able to show the excavations/fills.

 

A pair of approaches come to mind:

 

Opt 1. The fastest and perhaps least BIM-ish: create two views.

In one, show the foundation level ("New Construction" phase) by turning off the toposolid category.

In the other, ground level, show only the toposolid from the "Existing" phase and in wireframe display style.

In a sheet, align both views.

 

Opt 2.

Ground floor plan, infinite view range, cut height above ground.

In V/G, turn off EVERYTHING except columns, foundations, and toposolids.

Add a filter to turn off toposolids in the "New Construction" phase.

View discipline: Structural

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I leave you the example file (Rvt2026)

 

 

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bhattanurag5072
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If you want to show a toposolid (like ground or land) in your foundation plan, but your view range is lower than the toposolid, you can still make it visible without changing the view range.

Easy Solution:

  1. Select the Toposolid.

  2. Right-click on it.

  3. Click "Override Graphics in View" "By Element".

  4. Turn on “Transparent” or change visibility settings so it shows even if it’s above the cut plane.

 Another Tip:

You can also use "Underlay" or "Detail Lines" or even a 3D view on a sheet if needed.

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will_young
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Many thanks for these workarounds, I did already mention I have a workaround in earlier comment which is quite fast and only has to be done once.

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