Lineweight issue in template

[EmptySaturnV]

I have just noticed that we have a lineweight issue with a family that we have. This family is set as a generic model. The issue we face is that while using our view template, this generic model has a heavy lineweight even though the weight is set at 1. When we create a brand new elevation and don't use the template, the lineweight shows correctly as being lighter (what 1 normally looks like). I have browsed through our template and compared it to the fresh view and I can't find what is causing the difference. Can any of you compare the two views and tell me why the lineweight of the generic model shows different in the two elevations?

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

I can't open your 2018, but what you are describing might be due to changing the graphic properties of the element in the template view. Did you? 

[EmptySaturnV]

No this is a fresh project file and no graphics have been overridden. The only thing that exist in the project are a wall and the panel blind family hosted to the wall. I can try to create a 2017 version if no one else chimes in soon. Thanks!

[barthbradley]

I just opened it on a 2018 workstation and don't see issue using "THD Cabinet Elevation" template. 

...you are applying a line pattern  override in "THD Elevation" template though

[EmptySaturnV]

Sorry I should have clarified that. I have created 2 building elevations. One called "front new w/o template" and another called "front w/ template". The one with the template is using the THD elevation template.

[barthbradley]

The rvt I loaded didn't have templates assigned to those views. But I did see problem nonetheless. I believe that solves it. No? 

[EmptySaturnV]

No, the one title "front w/ template" does have a template applied to it. The one titled "front w/o template" is a fresh view and has no template applied to it. I need to figure out why the one with the template applied looks different. In looking at the settings of the view template, I can't see any difference that would make the family appear thicker.

[barthbradley]

Dude, you have a override in it. Under Generic Models Patterns. See it? 

...just clear it and all is right as rain. 

[EmptySaturnV]

The only override is for surface pattern, not the projection lineweight.

[barthbradley]

so what you are saying, is that when you clear that override it does not correct your issue? 

[EmptySaturnV]

No that does not solve the issue. My issue is regarding the projection lineweight of the generic model family. Clearing out the override of the projection surface pattern does nothing. They are not related.

[barthbradley]

...actually, I can't figure it out either. It's ticking me off too. 

@ToanDN: You up? 

[EmptySaturnV]

Well I just tried creating a new view with no pre-applied template. Then I matched line by line the visibility/graphics settings from the normal template. Interestingly enough, the problem doesn't reoccur. I wonder if this is perhaps a defect that occurred during a release upgrade and just somehow corrupted that view template. Has anyone else run into this? At least I know how to work around it now in the meantime...

[barthbradley]

Well, I'm not conversant with 2018 yet; we're not using it for production yet. But, I am curious: can you replicate this in 2017. I'd love to have that file if so. 

[EmptySaturnV]

Here is a 2017 file. It seems to exhibit the same behavior.

[barthbradley]

Nope, not at my end. It's different. So, I wonder if this is an issue with 2018. 

@Viveka_CD: you up from your afternoon nap yet? Want to weigh in on this?

[EmptySaturnV · Accepted solution]

OK I figured out the issue. In the graphics display options for the view, I had "silhouettes" turned on, so all medium lines were coming in thicker.

[barthbradley]

That's the first thing I said!!! You told me no way. I just took your word for it. Didn't even verify. 

[EmptySaturnV]

Sorry I misunderstood then your original post. When you mentioned overriding the graphic properties of the individual element, I took that to mean overriding the graphics display of one element or a category of elements. I didn't think you were speaking of something like silhouettes which would change all elements. Sorry about that.

[barthbradley]

No apology necessary. I'm half kidding. You read it right; I did specifically mention"element".  But, I was on the right track, which is what I meant.

Fun thread. Thanks for the challenge.

Have a good day