lineweight in plans and elevations

[basma_salman]

I would like to know how to show the line weight in plans ( the closest object should be displayed in a thick dark line and for the far objects should be displayed in lighter line weight), same situation in elevations,
however, in elevations I know I can use depth cueing and the line work tool, is there any other way to show line weight in elevation? and how to show it in plans?

Thanks

[barthbradley]

You just described what we do with Depth Cueing and the Linework tool.  Why can't you use them?  Or, Override Graphics by Element, Filter, Category?  

[ToanDN]

Depth Cue doesn't work for plan views so you have to use linework tool, or stack several plan views with different view ranges, override the lineweight for those view to meet your need. None of these are practical.

[basma_salman]

because it is not a practical way to use line work tool and go through all of ur elevations or plans views and do each element by a time, it is just a time consuming

[ToanDN]

Would it be okay to change the tone instead of lineweight? For example, from 100% black to 75% to 50% to 25%.

[barthbradley]

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@basma_salman wrote:

because it is not a practical way to use line work tool and go through all of ur elevations or plans views and do each element by a time, it is just a time consuming

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I would agree that it's not "Practical"-work.  It's more akin to "Art"-work.  But, if that's what you want to do, Revit does have tools to do it.  

[basma_salman]

you mean to change it for each view or  from where should I do it? object style?

[barthbradley]

I don't see how VGOs or Object Styles will be of assistance  to you here.  VGOs BY ELEMENT is what you would use to selectively change the display of certain elements in a view.  

Object Style is a Global Setting, not a View Setting. Through the View's Visibility and Graphic Overrides, we can override the Object Style just in that one View.   But that's BY CATEGORY.  That's not what you want. You want to select particular "background" and "foreground" elements and change the the way they look in the View.  Therefore, you would use Graphic Override BY ELEMENT. 

[basma_salman]

all solutions or tools provided by revit would not be practical when we are having big project with lots of views, I can not imagine going through view by view and adjusting the line weight using the line work😓 

[barthbradley]

Me neither. Lot of work.  Does it pay?   

[ToanDN]

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@basma_salman wrote:

you mean to change it for each view or  from where should I do it? object style?

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If you are okay with using various tones instead of lineweights to illustrate the depth then it is rather easier, no overriding or object styles involved, and all can be done within one view.

[basma_salman]

it is just giving me a headache, can't believe a powerful software like revit , can't work properly when it comes to lineweights 

[barthbradley]

I don't how any software could do what you want.  It's totally subjective.  

If it isn't subjective, then tell me how it is not. This could be a Dynamo Routine -- if there is a "routine".  

[basma_salman]

😓😓

[RDAOU]

On how many plan views do you need to apply this? and how complicated are the layouts?

[RDAOU]

One of the improvised ways to show depth before "Depth Cueing" was introduced to elevations was to use filled masking regions with invisible lines then adjust transparency as per image below...some use transparent 3D masses...easy and doesn't take much time