Keynotes - Additional 'Fields'

[john.f.baker]

Hello forum,

What is the best way of creating an additional field for a keynote tag?

What I ideally want is shown in the attached screenshot file. I know it's possible as I used this system at a previous company, but it was a while ago now and I'm returning to Revit after a number of years away (after slogging through far off countries called VectorworksLand and ArchiCADLand... ugh).

Essentially what I'd like to be able to do is have keynote 'value' (eg. "46-11-001") and keynote 'title' (eg. "12MM TOUGHENED SAFETY GLASS") shown throughout my various drawings using typical keynote tags, and on a single sheet have a schedule that displays all fields 'value', 'title' and 'text' (eg "Colourback glass, refer specification, front face sandblasted & sealed"). I know more or less how to do this part I think, it's just the creation of the additional 'title' field I'm struggling with.

I am using RevitLT. I'm familiar to a point with creating keynote schedules and modifying the keynote .txt file, but probably missing something simple!

Many thanks,

John

[barthbradley]

You're not missing anything.

What about Multi-Category Tag? 

[ToanDN]

You could combine the Keynote Value and Keynote Title into the one Keynote Value field.

[barthbradley]

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@ToanDN wrote:

You could combine the Keynote Value and Keynote Title into the one Keynote Value field.

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How would you add a 3rd parameter field though?  There's only 2 available.  There's the rub. Or am I misunderstanding the OP?  

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

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@barthbradley wrote:

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How would you add a 3rd parameter field though?  There's only 2 available.  There's the rub. Or am I misunderstanding the OP?  

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No adding new field. 

Keynote Value = [00 11 22   BRIEF DESCRIPTION] 

Keynote Text = [Detailed description]

[john.f.baker]

Thanks for the replies people.

No that’s more or less what I’m struggling with: adding a third parameter
field. Combining would be a workaround as every now and then I like to use
just the number (no title, no description).

Using multi-category tags would also be a workaround. I don’t think I’ve
used these before so unsure if they’d be suitable but ideally I want to
make use of the keynote tag as much as I can.

As mentioned a previous practice I worked for long ago did this so it must
be possible! Unless of course functionality has been taken away which I
doubt....

[barthbradley]

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@john.f.baker wrote:

As mentioned a previous practice I worked for long ago did this so it must
be possible! Unless of course functionality has been taken away which I
doubt....

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Actually, I think you used to be able to hack the Keynote by temporarily switching it's category. But that's been some year ago though. I don't have access to any of those projects (or versions) to be able to verify.  I could be mis-remembering. 

[ToanDN]

Are you sure you were using Keynote Tags and not Generic Annotation symbols and Note Block?  The latter you can add as many fields as you wish and you can schedule them as well.

[john.f.baker]

Yes - absolutely sure I was using keynotes. I remember I had hotkeys set up for 'Element Keynote' (KK), 'User Keynote' (KU) and 'Keynote Settings' (KS) to enable quick reloading of the keynote txt file. Worked like a breeze once set up properly and you had an automatically populating schedule of all project keynotes at the start of the document set.

It would just seem odd to only allow two fields/parameters. For me to use them effectively and flexibly I would need:
1 - Code (CBI code ie. 1234-00 or similar)
2 - Title
3 - Detailed description

Maybe I'm deluded but I'm convinced there's still a simple way around this!

[Corsten.Au]

Hi

You can create two tags for the same elements.

1. First to show Keynote Value, and Keynote Title

2. Second to Show Keynote Text ( this can be another added info in Keynote File )

sometimes its hard to incorporate two things in one..so better keep it separate and under control

Ex : Window tag, needs to show window number, as well as type, as well as material, and some other info

.. so keep four different tags for windows showing all those..

1. number

2. type

3. material

4.. some rating etc..

now similarly in Keynote, there are restriction to show only two info

number , and text..

you may have two keynote tag families, keynote 1, keynote 2.

showing

number 1 : text 1

number 2 : text 2

only text 1

only text 2

only number 1

only number 2

whatever you want to achieve in the end..

cheers.

[john.f.baker]

This method works, thanks ToanDN. I think this is how we 'hacked' it from memory!