Keynote Legend - Font Not Matching Text Notes

[a-carpentier]

Hi everyone,

I am in the process of implementing keynote legends for all my projects, but one thing I noticed is that the font used in my keynote legends is different from the font used for text annotation despite the fact that the same font property is used for both (see below)

The annotation text looks a lot smoother than the schedule text and the character spacing is larger. 

Is there a way for me to get the schedule font to match the annotation font?
Or worst case scenario, to get the annotation font to match the schedule font?

Thanks!
Antoine

[barthbradley]

Could be related to your display/zoom.  How's it print? 

[a-carpentier]

Thanks for your reply barthbradley!
Here is what it looks like when printed:

The schedule text gets as smooth as the annotation text which is good, but there's still a size difference.

Here is a zoomed-in overlay of the two (red is schedule, black is annotation):

We can see that the red letters are slightly smaller than the black letters despite using the same font.

[barthbradley]

It's called Kerning. 

[a-carpentier]

Is there a way to apply equal kerning to both text? I do not know if it's something the user can control.

Also, if you look closely at the characters on the overlayed image, the red characters are slightly smaller than the black characters (the bottom of the characters align but the top of the black characters is slightly higher than the top of the red characters) so I think there is more to it than just spacing.

I appreciate the help!

[barthbradley]

What's this "Arial (O)" font?  Does it improve with another?  

[a-carpentier]

"Arial (O)" is an opaque Arial font.

This problem seems to apply to any font size I use, however when changing the font size the results are pretty unexpected.

Here is what it looks like with 1/2" Arial font. The annotation (bottom) is very slightly larger than the schedule (top).

Now here is what it looks like with 1/64" Arial font. The annotation (bottom) is a lot smaller than the schedule (top).

Those screenshots are taken from a PDF print so it is not a zoom issue. 

[barthbradley]

All the screenshots are taken from the PDF Preview?  How do they show in the Screen Display?  Same?  

[a-carpentier]

The screenshots were taken from a printed PDF using Bluebeam to view it, but it looks the same way in Revit

[barthbradley]

 Can you post your file? 

[a-carpentier]

Attached is a newly created project in Revit 2019.
On sheet 101 - Substructure, you will find a keynote legend and a text annotation that shows the size discrepancy.

Thanks!

[barthbradley]

They are using two different fonts. Edit the Keynote Family and see. 3/32" Arial.  

[a-carpentier]

The Keynote tag is not where I am having a problem, I am having a problem with the content of the keynote schedule that is placed on sheet 101 - Substructure below the viewport for Level 04.

Thanks

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

oops. 

Well, all I can say is that it replicable on my end. It's slight but noticeable.  

[ToanDN]

There has always been size inconsistency among plain text, label, text in schedule since they introduced the new way for measuring characters starting Revit 2017.  You can provide product feedbacks asking them to fix it in future releases.

[syman2000]

This issue exist in 2017. So only Autodesk team can answer these issue.

[a-carpentier]

Alright, it sounds like that will pretty much never get fixed then.
Thanks for your input @ToanDN , @syman2000 and particularly @barthbradley  for helping me troubleshoot this issue!

[challstrom]

@a-carpentierI'm surprised that this specific issue has not been flagged/logged (or maybe it has and Google doesn't know about it).

Either way, frustrating when you have a text block above/below a schedule and the discrepancy makes it look like two different fonts.