Joist tag is too far from joist

[Alexy.]

I recently modified our steel joist family and now when I try to tag it without a leader, the tag is about 1.7 times farther away from the joist than it used to be. The only change I made in the family is to switch Symbolic Representation from "From Project Settings" to "From Family." I did this so that the joist would always show up with the same linetype regardless of its "Structural Usage."

I don't want to change the tag family because I also use this tag for steel beams. And I don't want to duplicate the tag family because then I'll have to constantly switch back and forth between the two. I know I can just shift the tags after placement, but any ideas on how to make this work correctly the first time?

[ToanDN]

Maybe you should have changed the Object Styles to make different structural usages using the same graphic style and leave the joist family Symbolic Presentation by Project Settings.

[Alexy.]

Thanks for the reply! What you're describing is the way we used to have it. But I don't want to have to keep changing the Structural Usage to get the correct linetype. I want all joists to just have a certain linetype regardless of their Structural Usage.

[ToanDN]

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@Alexy. wrote:

Thanks for the reply! What you're describing is the way we used to have it. But I don't want to have to keep changing the Structural Usage to get the correct linetype. I want all joists to just have a certain linetype regardless of their Structural Usage.

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Keep changing structural Usage?  No you only to do it once via Object Styles, expand the structural framing subcategories and make all the usages the same graphically.  

[Alexy.]

I don't want all of my structural framing members to show up as the same linetype. I want steel beams to show up one way (5 Solid) and steel joists to show up a different way (4 thickness, Double Dash 3/8" pattern).

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

I see. So you commit to use that framing member family only for joists and nothing else? You could still keep it "by project settings" and set up a filter by family name or type to override the joists in views.

[Alexy.]

Great idea! It doesn't solve the issue of why the tag isn't in the correct place after switching Symbolic Representation to "From Family," but that is a great workaround to do what I need. Thanks so much!