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Issues with placing doors within model in-place walls

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owen_bentley
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Issues with placing doors within model in-place walls

owen_bentley
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I'm working on an old hotel where the wall thicknesses constantly change and are irregular in many areas, hence why I have used model in-place walls. When I go to place a door within a certain wall, it snaps to a completely different one. 

 

(please excuse the low res image)

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Issues with placing doors within model in-place walls

I'm working on an old hotel where the wall thicknesses constantly change and are irregular in many areas, hence why I have used model in-place walls. When I go to place a door within a certain wall, it snaps to a completely different one. 

 

(please excuse the low res image)

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barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Best to post the file here so we can see what's going on. 

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Best to post the file here so we can see what's going on. 

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ToanDN
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ToanDN
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For an immediate fix, select the door, pick new host and pick the wall within the in-place model you want.  It may or may not work.  If not, you may want to split the in place model into several ones, with a maximum of 2 walls running parallel in each model.

 

 

It happens if you model the the entire floor of walls as one extrusion.  With a lot of issues originating from in place model walls, I strongly suggest modeling them as system walls. 

 

You don't need a lot of wall types for the various thicknesses, just overlapping several walls and join them to get the thickness you want. 

 

You can even create an architectural column family with instance dimension parameters, place it and it will automatic join with walls to sculpt odd-and-end conditions.

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For an immediate fix, select the door, pick new host and pick the wall within the in-place model you want.  It may or may not work.  If not, you may want to split the in place model into several ones, with a maximum of 2 walls running parallel in each model.

 

 

It happens if you model the the entire floor of walls as one extrusion.  With a lot of issues originating from in place model walls, I strongly suggest modeling them as system walls. 

 

You don't need a lot of wall types for the various thicknesses, just overlapping several walls and join them to get the thickness you want. 

 

You can even create an architectural column family with instance dimension parameters, place it and it will automatic join with walls to sculpt odd-and-end conditions.

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barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Well actually, if you are going to rebuild the Walls, I would suggest using Basic Wall Types of the proper thicknesses.  Your Walls will be much smarter that way, as well as their BIM value.  

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Well actually, if you are going to rebuild the Walls, I would suggest using Basic Wall Types of the proper thicknesses.  Your Walls will be much smarter that way, as well as their BIM value.  

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owen_bentley
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owen_bentley
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That hasn't worked unfortunately, although I have found a solution. If I place the door where Revit is snapping it then allows me to place one on the wall I'm hovering over.

 

I think I may end up remodeling all the walls this way as I'm trialing the functionality of exporting the model into IES. 

 

Thanks for your assistance 

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That hasn't worked unfortunately, although I have found a solution. If I place the door where Revit is snapping it then allows me to place one on the wall I'm hovering over.

 

I think I may end up remodeling all the walls this way as I'm trialing the functionality of exporting the model into IES. 

 

Thanks for your assistance 

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