Issue with Reference Plane green dashed lines of one view appearing on all views

[Anonymous]

I do have a problem with the reference planes created on one view when then they appear on all other created views.  For instance, on a new view with all these Ref Planes created on another view, I have to isolate all of these unwanted greed dashed lines and then hide then in view. 

Is there a way so the Ref Planes created on one view appear on only that view where they are created and not on other views?

Thanks in advance.

[MostafaElashmawy]

Reference plane's purpose is to show in all views as a reference.

If you want something that appear in one view, just draw a detail line.

[Anonymous]

Detail lines do not print if you forget to erase these?

(not to mention that these lines might be confused with the rest of the lines on the floor plan?)

Seems to me that the reference planes (which in fact shall be called "reference lines" instead when used to position elements on plan) shall be solely dedicated to the view in which they are drawn, unless, of course, you want these to appear on other views also which in that case there shall be a selection rectangle to click to specify the preference of them to appear on other desired views.  I guess that some other correspondents will agree with me about that.

When I use Ref Planes on an elevation, for instance, I have a messy mess of green dashed lines on all other plans that I open, and I have to use labor time to hid them or to get rid of these.

[MostafaElashmawy]

I totally agree with you and face the same problem. I was just proposing an alternative.

Sometimes I make view template without reference plane and another one with reference planes on.

I think autodesk should introduce reference lines(Which are available in families creation) in projects environment as well.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback. 

I think Autodesk shall address this issue, which at this moment seems to be an annoying recurring issue.

[martijn_pater]

You can assign subcategories to reference planes to control them for different views/elements. With clear naming conventions for these subcats you can keep your views clean.

[MostafaElashmawy]

By the way, to avoid confusing detail lines used for reference with other detail lines, sometimes I give them a separate style, subcategory, colour and pattern.

Good Luck.

[RDAOU]

You usually do that using one of the following:

1. Go to object Styles and create Reference Plane Subcategories (color/line style...) and switch on and off in the views u want or need

OR

2. Treat them like Datum elements (grids and levels) ie:  Assign them to their own workset (On /Off) as needed

 

[barthbradley]

We deal with this in every project. It can be a mitigated by good management. Naming Ref. Planes something that will easily identify their purpose, and assigning them to uniquely named Subcategories (e.g. classifications) so they can be hidden in the Views by way of VGOs is how we deal with Ref. Planes.  

BTW: Subcategories for Ref. Plane/Lines was first introduced in 2018.  FWIW. 

[ToanDN]

Another aspect to consider is that if the 3d extent of the ref planes are outside of the view then they will not show. So if you only want a ref plane to show in the 1st floor plan view but not the 2nd floor plan view, then cut a section across the plane, go there and drag the grip to make the plane stay beneath the 2nd floor level.

It would be ideal if Revit could give top/bottom elevations of a vertical ref plane under properties but alas.

[martijn_pater]

You can assign them to scope boxes, I think it should have top/bottom range this way.

[ToanDN]

Yes. You still need to go to a section or 3d to stretch the scope box though, then hide it where you don't want to see.

[barthbradley]

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@martijn_pater wrote:

You can assign them to scope boxes, I think it should have top/bottom range this way.

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Add even more linework to counter the visibility of other linework??? 

Yah, I guess one could that. 

😉

[martijn_pater]

You can still use subcategories as I mentioned above to control visibility. If it's quite a few refplanes, you can also use 'views visible' for scope boxes for which views you want the scope boxes' (and the applied refplanes' to this scope box') visibility.

@barthbradleyI guess if you don't want to see the linework of the scopeboxes you can always turn it off in annotation category, if not already controlled by the scope box' extents properties…