Interior Elements Showing on Hidden Line

Interior Elements Showing on Hidden Line

griendling87
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Interior Elements Showing on Hidden Line

griendling87
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Hi Everyone,

 

I am having some major trouble and my office cannot figure out how to revise this setting. We have elevations in this project that are showing through the exterior walls, even when it is on hidden line view.

 

The backstory: We inherited this model from another architecture office, and it has some settings our team is unfamiliar with. The most pressing issue is that some how, we have certain elements that show up and cannot be turned off. My first step after it not being readily apparent was to import our project settings from our template file's view template settings. I applied this view template to the views and the elements still show.

 

Key elements I've addressed:

  • View template is our office standard- all template categories are checked.
  • The model elements that show are a combination of both elements that the previous firm made, and new elements I've made - so it must be a view setting and not a manual override
  • the surfaced in the elevation view are NOT transparent.
  • The view template is set to hidden line
  • I've tried consistent colors and rendered view and it all still shows the elements
  • The clipping plane does properly extend into the building enough - the elements DO respond to the clipping plane, but the building shape is irregular so I cannot just shallow out the plane to just behind the wall
  • They are NOT model lines drawn on top of the view using the linetype tool. They are selectable elements.
  • There are no filters on the views
  • I created a BRAND NEW elevation and they still show
  • The elements showing seem to be category driven - stairs, plumbing fixtures, some doors, but it isn't consistent, and the stairs seem to be the most intrusive.
  • The issue does not exist in another view orientation - meaning a plan view
  • The issue DOES exist in section view - no view settings applied

Other than that, I am out of my mind trying to figure this one out. Anyone have ANY ideas?

 

Best,

 

Kevin

 

 

The issue in elevation:

Cap 01.JPG

 

The view template check boxes:

 

Cap 02.JPG

 

 

The view issue in section:

 

Cap 03.JPG

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Alfredo_Medina
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Welcome to the forum.

 

Is it possible for you to post the model? Maybe here or in a Dropbox account or similar? 


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Anonymous
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Sure. Can you email me the link at kgriendling@hpiarchitecture?

 

Kevin

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chrisplyler
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What happens if you change the view's Show Hidden Lines parameter to a value of None instead of the value By Discipline?

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Anonymous
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@chrisplyler wrote:

What happens if you change the view's Show Hidden Lines parameter to a value of None instead of the value By Discipline?


That is a good thought. We did try this. It has no effect. (none at all, not even just a partial reaction).

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chrisplyler
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Is the staircase made of Revit system stairs, or is it a family? If it's system stairs then that rules out what I'm about to say, but...

 

Is it possible all of those families were made with symbolic lines and they're all placed such that those lines are normal to the view? I know, I know, that's an unlikely thing, but it's the only other thing that I can think of besides a graphics card issue.

 

What happens if you turn off/on graphics hardware acceleration?

 

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Anonymous
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@chrisplyler wrote:

Is the staircase made of Revit system stairs, or is it a family? If it's system stairs then that rules out what I'm about to say, but...

 

Is it possible all of those families were made with symbolic lines and they're all placed such that those lines are normal to the view? I know, I know, that's an unlikely thing, but it's the only other thing that I can think of besides a graphics card issue.

 

What happens if you turn off/on graphics hardware acceleration?

 


Thanks for the input on that. The stairs are system stairs. Some were pre-existing in the model and some were made by me using the standard out of the box stair elements.

 

Hardware acceleration doesn't affect this issue.

 

It is comical how hard this is to identify...

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griendling87
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Hello again all,

 

I contacted the original architect for this project and their BIM manager does not know what is happening either. Anyone else have any thoughts?

 

Kevin

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ToanDN
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Can you upload the file?
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Message 10 of 16

Anonymous
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How do I do that securely? I do not want to upload the model to the whole forum.

 

(I am now posting on our company account, btw)

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

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Message 11 of 16

bails1974
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Hi all,

Just came across this thread as I have encountered the same issue on a model I am working on. When I import a M&E model into my structural model I am getting all the hidden lines displaying. I was wondering if the problem was solved or overcome in some way?

 

Message 12 of 16

Anonymous
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Hello Everyone,

 

Did anyone ever come across a solution to this issue? 

I am stuck in a similar situation where the interiors are showing through an exterior elevation in Revit. (Image attached)

This is in Hidden Line view (not wireframe) using the typical components. Even if a new elevation is taken, the same results. 
Looked at View Templates, Design Options, redrawing the wall but nothing helps.
Any ideas will be helpful. Thanks!
Message 13 of 16

valeriek
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Has Autodesk provided any input on this issue? I'm working in Revit 2022 and am having this issue that we know didn't have before with this model. We have some, not all, elevations and sections that appear to be showing hidden lines beyond the wall in the elevation. The views are hidden line views. 

 

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Message 14 of 16

valeriek
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I figured this one out, for us anyway. We had an imported 2d cad file that was showing up and once that was hidden in the view the elevation issues were resolved.

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userfourP57RL
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This also worked for us. We were rendering on Enscape and the Enscape assets placed in the model made the Site Plan show up as if it were in a Wireframe View. But for us the trick was to go through our V/G Override Model and uncheck the Plantings Category, hiding plantings within the view itself did not fix it. 

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Message 16 of 16

ROleinikov
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Usually when I have issue with showing hidden elements, I play with Discipline as well, Switching from Architectural to Coordination for example.

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