How to create an elevation of a neighbor to examine a proposals shadow impact?

How to create an elevation of a neighbor to examine a proposals shadow impact?

ro
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How to create an elevation of a neighbor to examine a proposals shadow impact?

ro
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How to create an elevation of a neighbor to examine a proposals shadow impact?

I've tried various elevation methods, sectional perspectives, transparency and other materials settings. It seems that Revit requires visible objects to cast shadows with. Is there a workaround?

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ToanDN
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Create the neighboring building using mass forms?
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ro
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I don't understand your question about my question.

 

Assume the neighbors/context are drawn as a mass. I wish to set up elevations of the neighboring/context masses to examine the shadows cast by the proposal on the subject site.

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Corsten.Au
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Hi

Create a Roof using Google Map or survey if available as a base..

and walls using Eave offset to the Roof Plan profile..

 

Cheers.

Corsten
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ro
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I don't understand this response.

I know how to model. I wish to examine the shadows cast on to a model.

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Corsten.Au
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Hello

Create Elevation or 3d view for each side for shadow analysis.

set the location, date and time to examine the shadow..

sample..

 

SHADOW MODEL.JPG

 

 

SHADOW ANALYSIS.JPG

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ro
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Hi Ganesh. Thanks for all your effort.

In your model, how can I capture the shadows from proposed blue object without having the blue object visible in the scene?

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Corsten.Au
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Are you looking for something like this.. you can achive this in any view i guess..Are you looking for something like this.. you can achive this in any view i guess..

 

VG- model - surface all white solid and edges ( projection lines ) also white.. and switch on the shaodw.. thats it..VG- model - surface all white solid and edges ( projection lines ) also white.. and switch on the shaodw.. thats it..

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ro
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Hello and thanks again Ganesh.

The shadow I need to see is behind your left hand foreground tower. How do you show the shadow beyond the tower?

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Corsten.Au
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Hello

 

Use Camera angle / Elevation which captures the required shadow.

else you may make the view transparent ( VG, model transparent ) 

and create a manually filled region.

 

You may need to add two views overlapped or bit of manual work to achieve what you are looking for.

cause the moment you hide a 3d object, the shadow will vanish..

and if you want to keep the 3d object, its gonna interfere with the shadow visibility.

 

best luck

 

Corsten
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ro
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Thanks Corsten,

 

In summary, it can't be done?

It seems like a very simple task/ask.

Surely someone in Revit land has cracked this conundrum.

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RobDraw
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@ro wrote:

It seems like a very simple task/ask.


 

Then why can't you figure it out? Maybe, because invisible objects don't cast shadows?


Rob

Drafting is a breeze and Revit doesn't always work the way you think it should.
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Anonymous
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In my view its a weakness of Revit that you can't use this to do a shadow study.  Shadows can't show from behind or above the cut plane, so you cannot see how the shadows project onto surfaces.

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ro
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Absurd.

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ro
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It's now 2024. I've installed 2025. And I'm walking down the identical path. Trying to create an elevation with shadows cast on a neighbour. I can't find a way.

 

In plan, the simple solution is setup a camera and turn off perspective/turn on orthogonal view. This works perfectly.

 

In elevation, setting the direction and cut line doesn't seem to work.

 

Any tips appreciated.

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PattraJump
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ro
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Of course. Same as a shadow plan. Seems obvious now.

It seems like it should be a single click elevation view option, not a process.

 

Thanks 1 million PattraJump.