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How to create a wall/surface based family that automatically covers the surface?

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rattywolf
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How to create a wall/surface based family that automatically covers the surface?

I want to create a family containing custom tiles or bricks that can be stretched to cover the whole base surface, is it possible to create such thing in Revit, without Dynamo?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

Base surface of what? A wall?  Why not apply the tile or brick as a wall type or a wall sweep. That's normally how it's done.  

 

...a Stacked Wall Type is a great way to do wainscots. 

 

Stacked w-Tile Wainscot.png

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rattywolf
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

What if I need something like these bricks? I don't see how this can be made as sweep profileКартинки по запросу brick 45 degree

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

Window family or cuartian wall with custom panels.
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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

Cool. Yeah; that's a whole different animal.  You can do that as a Line-Based array. It's a little complicated because you are arraying horizontally as well as vertically.  But it's doable. The key will be to model one single brick in a separate family and nesting that family into multiple arrays. Families within families, so to speak.  Is it always only two rows? It it suppose to cut the host?  

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

If you an do it as a series of fixed width and height curtain panels, @ToanDN suggestion is by far the easiest.  You can then embed this Curtain Wall into a Basic Wall.   

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rattywolf
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

It is supposed to be a wall or a part of the wall covered with this pattern. Just made such family with imported half-brick family inside. Seems to slow down the program performance.. Will it be more lightweight as a curtain wall?

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

Hard to say. Let's look at your family. Post it here. 

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rattywolf
als Antwort auf: barthbradley

Here it is. I used array of arrays, may be the issue

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

 

 

Don't nest groups. In other words, avoid creating groups within other groups.

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/EN...

 

 

...as I indicated in my above post, the way to do it is by nesting families into families.  For example: Family A (the array element) nests into Family B for making the horizontal array) and also into Family C for making the vertical array).  Family B (horizontal array) nests into Family C (vertical array) .  Family C is the one that is loaded into project.  

 

...Can you open a 2017 RVT? I you can, I can post an example.  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

See revised file.

 

 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

see revised file.

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Corsten.Au
als Antwort auf: rattywolf

Hi..

 

multiple ways to approach that..

Curtain PanelCurtain PanelEmbed and Cut the curtain wall from the wall... this will cut the entire wall, so you might need to model a solid part of wall within the curtain wall Panel...Embed and Cut the curtain wall from the wall... this will cut the entire wall, so you might need to model a solid part of wall within the curtain wall Panel...This is some new approach.. create a generic model ( wall or surface based ), can be liner, array, or adaptive family..This is some new approach.. create a generic model ( wall or surface based ), can be liner, array, or adaptive family..place that on the wall, and use cut geometry...place that on the wall, and use cut geometry...

Corsten
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Sahay_R
als Antwort auf: Corsten.Au

Very Corbusier-ish. My question is - is this amount of detail required in the model? Can detail lines be used to 'fudge' the appearance of the bricks in views? A parametric array driven line based detail item family is very do-able, and relatively harmless to the health of the model. As you had mentioned, loading this family did slow the model down - I am not surprised. Do you require this level of detail for renderings - in that case, create a considerably simpler model with all the 3D doodads your heart desires. In the bigger picture of CDs - is it at all worth it?


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rattywolf
als Antwort auf: Corsten.Au

Thank you so much for covering different ways of doing this

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