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Hip roof terminating to gable

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Message 1 of 14
trakstang
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Hip roof terminating to gable

Porte Cochere at 14' bearing with rest of building at 10' bearing.  I want the planes on the left and right of the porte cochere to terminate as gable ends so that the porte cochere overhangs the 2 planes, see screen shot below.

 

I used to be a truss designer for a a truss company using mitek saphire.  I know for a fact that mitek saphire was created from Revit as a base.  I'm amazed at how clunky and unsophisticated Revit is at designing a simple hip roof when Mitek Saphire is essentially the same program.  Can the autodesk team coordinate with the saphire teams to make the roof design software more user friendly and identical?  It would be great if architects and truss manufacturers were all able to think and operate using the same tools.

 

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Message 2 of 14
barthbradley
in reply to: trakstang

Is there a question for us in there somewhere?  Or are we just venting frustrations?  

Message 3 of 14
trakstang
in reply to: barthbradley

How do i get the planes to cut they way i deescribed?

Message 4 of 14
barthbradley
in reply to: trakstang

Raise or Lower the porte-cochère roof.  Or use Roof Join/Unjoin tool. Or...heck I don't really have a clear understanding of what you are trying to correct.  Maybe some Elevations or 3D screenshots would help us to help you. 

 

...FWIW: you may also post your RVT here.  Know how?  

Message 5 of 14
trakstang
in reply to: barthbradley

trakstang_0-1648670083437.png

 

Message 6 of 14
barthbradley
in reply to: trakstang

Post your file and I'll show you how to do that as a monolithic structure. It involves using Offset from Roof Base. It's tricky.  

 

....basically, you want something along these lines; right?

 

PortoC.png

Message 7 of 14
trakstang
in reply to: barthbradley

Company policy, I can't share file. Screen grabs are all you get.  A youtube video would be great or some kind of written step by step.

Message 8 of 14
ToanDN
in reply to: trakstang

Share your roof model here.  I am sure it can be done.

Message 9 of 14
barthbradley
in reply to: trakstang

Maybe someone can post a GIF for you.   

 

GIFFY MAN?  You available?  😉

 

 

....do these 2 screenshots help?

 

PC330a.pngPC-330b.png

 

 

Message 10 of 14
RDAOU
in reply to: barthbradley

@barthbradley 

 

the images you posted are clear enough...if he cannot even share just the roof element then the GIF would be a waste 

 

You have been off for a couple of weeks which was unusual...Were you on vacation or did you catch corona?! 

 

 

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Message 11 of 14
trakstang
in reply to: trakstang

I figured this out on my own.  I had to create 5 different roofs and cut away the excess using the cut vertical tool then join them all together with the join geometry tool.  If you don't carefully cut away the excess or draw the planes correctly then they won't join the way you want them to.  This is a really cumbersome process with almost no youtube tutorials.  Autodesk really needs to coordinate with mitek saphire.  When I was a truss designer I was wondering why architects would send me roof plans and elevations with botched roof planes, now I know why.

Message 12 of 14
barthbradley
in reply to: trakstang


@trakstang wrote:

 Autodesk really needs to coordinate with mitek saphire.  


 

Coordinate how? 

 

Seems to me that you just need to become more familiar with Revit - so it isn't so "cumbersome" to you.  Your "Solution", while not wrong per se, IS, admittedly, the most cumbersome. It is not the ONLY way though.  Regarding your question:  "why architects would send me roof plans and elevations with botched roof planes"; this is about the Architect - NOT Revit.  The "Solution" in this case, would be to deal with it - or don't contract with that Architect. 

 

Have a better day.  😉  

Message 13 of 14
trakstang
in reply to: barthbradley

In the years that saphire has been out, I would think transfering the roof tools over from that program to revit would be top priority considering how much easier and more dynamic they are.  Autodesk, as the multi billion dollar software company that it is charging almost $5,000 for a licensed package; should be making consistent updates to there software to better serve their paying customers.  As per the rules of capitalism, I'm expecting a better product for my dollar.

Message 14 of 14
barthbradley
in reply to: trakstang

That still doesn't answer the question.  Coordinate How?  If you can articulate what precisely you'd like to see coordinated, then post it to the idea forum and see if it gets traction.  You know, it's a two-way street if you are looking for a better handshake, so maybe post to the mitek saphire forum as well.  

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