Handrail Extension Issue

Handrail Extension Issue

jbrr27
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Handrail Extension Issue

jbrr27
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I have set up a handrail to have an extension of the tread depth, with a wall return.  The handrail has a bend in it which looks strange, and is obviously not how it would be fabricated.  I've been able to figure out what Revit is doing, but not why.  Basically, the wall return portion of the handrail is placed at 36" above the landing, while the main portion of the handrail is at 36" above the line of the stair nosing.  I haven't been able to find any settings to adjust this.  See attached images of the extension, explanatory notes, and railing and handrail type properties.  Has anyone encountered this, and if so is there a solution?

Handrail Extension on StairsHandrail Extension on StairsHandrail Type PropertiesHandrail Type PropertiesRailing Type PropertiesRailing Type PropertiesExtension GeometryExtension Geometry

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barthbradley
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don't you want to level it off and run it parallel to landing (e.g. extend it)? Basically, split the railing sketch where it transitions from angle to horizontal. I think this would correct if that extension was long enough.  

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jbrr27
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I've used the detail you suggested before, and it works quite well just by unchecking the "Plus Tread Depth" Option in the Handrail family and setting the length option to the tread depth.  But in this case, that's not what I want to do.  I'd like to avoid the extra bend in the rail.  Ending on the angle like shown is fairly common in the real world, so I figure it's been done before in Revit and I'm not the first one to encounter this problem.  Maybe not though.

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barthbradley
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sorry. you're right. My remarks were off point. Regarding the deformity, I'm looking at your type properties and they look perfect. I'd have to mess with it, but don't know if I would set anything differently.  I had deformities before and in those cases it was easier to customize with in-place components than to spend time monkeying with the built-in settings. 

 

 

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ToanDN
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Adding a short extension instead of 0 may get it closer to what you want.

 

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jbrr27
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No worries.  This is one of those things I feel like I've done in Revit before without any issues, but maybe I haven't.  Looking back through some recent drawings I've seen the flattened rail extension where I thought I'd used this.

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jbrr27
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Thanks for that tip--it's an idea I hadn't thought of, and I did get it to work.  It's a compromise I can live with for now, but I would like to know if I can get it to work without any flat spot on the bottom at all since it's such a common detail, especially in residential.  

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