Glass Material is used but missing

[Anonymous]

I am working on a C4R project with another architecture firm. When I got to edit their family, I see a problematic 'Glass' material. When I got to edit it, it is not present however!

I think it may actually have to do with our office using Revit in French and their office using Revit in English. How can I find this material to edit it?

Thanks!

[barthbradley]

Create a new material and apply a glass Asset to it.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2015/EN...

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

It was indeed a bug with french/english.

By opening Revit in English, I was able to select and modify the material. IT,s probably like this because Revit creates a default 'Glass' material in ENG and 'Verre' in French. So it's like a 'system' material.

Creating a new material would not be efficient since I would have to modify all the families using that material.

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymouswrote:

Creating a new material would not be efficient since I would have to modify all the families using that material.

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Why would that be neccessary?  

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymouswrote:

It was indeed a bug with french/english.

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What's the "bug"? 

[Anonymous]

You would expect it to list all materials used in the model.

For materials that Revit considers 'system' materials, the materials it creates by default, it seems to only display these in the language of the user. So a French user will not see glass, but he will see a different material 'glass' that is not the same material used in the families.

In order to modify an English 'system' material, you have to use the English version of Revit. This is pretty bad for interroperability. Keep in mind that in Quebec we are obligated by law to use the French version of Revit, but Autodesk has a  bunch of language bugs with language interroperability. Really, French Revit is a second class citizen.

Our Revit floor are called 'soil' in the categories and a bunch of the naming makes no sense. Then you have bugs like these that make cooperation harder.

[barthbradley]

I don't call them "System" Materials; I call them the "Default" Template Materials. Create your own RTE with default Materials. 

[Anonymous]

In French Revit, inside the project, when I tried to create a 'glass' material, it told me that this material already existed. I think Autodesk needs to fix the problem.

Adding two materials with the same name would likely only exacerbate the problem, seeing as they are recognized but hidden from each other. There is a weird limbo bug world of materials that half talk to each other.

[barthbradley]

So you're saying that when you try to Name a New Material, Revit alerts you that the name is in use? Are are you saying that when you try to Name a New Asset,  Revit alerts you that the name is in use? 

[Anonymous]

In French Revit, I try to create a new 'Glass' material (not asset) and I get a warning that it already exists. However I cannot see it or edit it unless I am in English Revit.

[barthbradley]

AH! I see now. Thank you for that explanation. Okay, you won me over. It does sound like a punaise. Autodesk needs to squash it! 

[ToanDN]

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@barthbradley wrote:

AH! I see now. Thank you for that explanation. Okay, you won me over. It does sound like a punaise. Autodesk needs to squash it! 

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Touché!

[Anonymous]

[patrick.emin]

Bonjour, pour votre information, nous avons un forum en français: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-et-bim-francais/bd-p/198