Foundation Brick Ledge at Corner

[mcovill]

Any thoughts on how to model discontinuous brick ledge heights at a corner?  See attached images modeled in SketchUp vs the default join in Revit.

Thanks

[RDAOU]

You can start with stacked walls, later deconstruct/disassemble them..  

The notch you can achieve in various ways.  .example:

1. a built in reveal in the wall structure 
2. Or you can unlock the wall's layers

And another alternative is to use parts...adjust their shape handles then reassemble once you get the desired combination 

[syman2000 · Accepted solution]

I create two separate wall. Adjust the base offset and then do join geometry. See attached.

[mcovill]

@syman2000 I can't open the file: "Attempted to access wall join.rvt past its end".   Sounds like my Revit missed the end-of-file marker.  I have Revit 2021, but I wouldn't think that shouldn't stop it.

[syman2000 · Accepted solution]

Weird that file is 2017 version. Here is the 2021.

[mcovill]

Thanks @RDAOU I got the method to Create Parts.  I'm not sure about re-assembling.  Using a Reveal also kind of worked, but I had to create custom profiles, and there was a two dimensional surface left at the top of the reveal where it aligned with the foundation top. Weird.

Mike

[mcovill · Accepted solution]

Thanks @syman2000 , @RDAOU I was able to make both methods you suggested work.

@syman2000, the Join Geometry method worked.  At first I couldn't, but after another day of experimentation I finally found the "Golden Path" for joining walls:

1. Un-join the foundation and brick walls

2. Join the Geometry of the brick with the foundation below (@syman2000 's method only)

3. Set the heights at the connection

4. Re-join the brick walls

5. Toggle the brick Wall Join

6. Align the end of the top foundation wall with the side of the other foundation wall

7. Drag the handle of the other foundation wall to just touch the first one

8. Done! 🤯

@RDAOU, the above sequence is also required for the Create Parts method, with the addition of Creating the Parts of the foundation wall step in the middle.  You need to join the brick walls before joining the foundation walls.

One thing I noticed, in both methods, you end up with two separate join conditions: one for the brick wall join and one for the foundation wall join.  But if you join the foundation first, then the brick wall, there is only one join condition (as indicated by the square around the intersection with the Wall Join tool).

Rant: Why are wall joins in Revit so painful?  Why can't they just give us control instead of trying to hold our hand.  We're the ones doing the design, I think we can handle it.

Mike

[RDAOU]

@mcovill 

It is not painful you need more practice to get used to all what is possible...You can even do it using 1x Basic wall type and have that same detail (Similar to the GIF below)  without Joined Geometries and no golden paths

What is the difference? many besides the Join type but this would be a different discussion.