Elevation Pointer hides label text

Elevation Pointer hides label text

hmunsell
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Elevation Pointer hides label text

hmunsell
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When using Elevation tags, if the sheet number is too long, it runs outside the elevation bubble. I'm ok with that, but when that label crosses the pointer, the text does not mask the pointer as it does in a section. 

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I think I already know the answer, but I'm throwing this out there just in case 😉.

Howard Munsell
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perez-tony
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The Elevation Mark Body/Pointer uses the Callout Head, a different annotation family than the Section Head. To match the behavior shown in the Section Head family, the tag label background setting would need to be changed to "Opaque" in the Callout Head family. 

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hmunsell
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it already is set to Opaque. 

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malgorzata.stelmachsuska
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I opened the elevation marker family and copied the label. After pasting it, the label showed up at the top, and the text was visible.
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pkomatlapalli
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Hi @hmunsell ,

I wanted to check in and see if you still needed assistance, or if you found a solution to your question already? Let us know if you need further assistance by providing an update or if you have found a solution, please share it with the community so other members who may have the same question could learn from your experience.
 

Pavan Kumar | Community Manager
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hmunsell
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@pkomatlapalli, Thank you for inquiring 😁

 

Unfortunately, in Revit, the Sections and Elevations families function differently. A section family is one element, bubble and arrow in one Section Head family. The arrow is often a Filled Region in the Section Head family. An Elevation is a combined element, the Body and the Pointer are 2 different elements nested together.  The Body is linework and labels, where the Pointers are a Nested element. This prevents the Opaque label setting from covering the Pointer in the Elevation. 

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Mike.FORM
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Doesn't seem to be fixable. I tested the cut an pasting the sheet reference label in the marker to see if it had something to do with draw order in the family but it did not work.

 

It would be nice if the nested pointers had a property for draw in foreground/background.

It would be nice if all annotation families nested into other annotation families had this option.

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hmunsell
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@Mike.FORM @pkomatlapalli 

 What I ended up having to do to accommodate the client's naming convention was add the break to the Left and Right pointer families in the elevation to fake the Masking. I don't remember the exact project or id share a screen capture 😁. But luckily, their latest standard got rid of that naming convention.

 

But it is still a potential issue.... 

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