Drainage on multiple work planes

Drainage on multiple work planes

Toph3
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Drainage on multiple work planes

Toph3
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Hello,

I am quite a rookie in Revit and I am questioning myself if the following is possible.

 

Problem: Design a drainage channel on a floor with multiple slope variation.

 

My normal workflow for plane floor: Create a component extrusion for the void (picking the floor as work plane) and then model a modelinplace of the drainage channel.

 

Question: Is it possible to select multiple work plane? Should I create multiple extrusion for every different sloped floor and then as many drainage channel as the subdivision of my floor? what about of thos parts of floor which intersect? In general, how to overcome this limit?

 

Attachments: in yellow the multiple sloped floor on which I have to model the drainage channel

 

In case my question has most likely already been posted sorry and I would really appreciate any help, if I am thinking in the right or wrong way or if I have to solve the problem from a different perspective.

 

Thank you in advance

 

 

 

 

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martijn_pater
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Toph3
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Thank you, if I have understood correctly I have already modelled my floor with the "Modify sub elements" command + adding the points (see attachment).

This is just for the modelling of the floor which is no problem, what I do not know how to do is how to insert a drainage channel on this floor, this object should adapt to the different points (heights) I have along the surface floor. Because I can only pick one work plane at a time, the drainage is visible only to the first subelement of the floor whereas it should adapt to all the subelements of my floor.

flor modelleld with Modify subelements commandflor modelleld with Modify subelements command

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martijn_pater
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Not sure really best way to go about that.

 

-Maybe modeling it as railing, that one seems promising...

-Or otherwise I guess you could do an extrusion in mass environment and/or use Adaptive Component with multiple/some number of placement points...

-Structural framing picklines with 3d snapping checked...

 

Just some thoughts...

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syman2000
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I curious to know if you need to be this accurate to get the slope varies? Most of the time people can spend hours to get their slope and then afterward your civil/landscape consultant may change their drainage location and you have to go thru that process all over again. Most often this is where you kill your budget very quickly. My advice is always let the other consultant deal with this because of liability issue if your model will be used as guide for contractor to use.

 

If you want to get the drainage as representation, you don't bother with the slot drain and points. The screenshot you shown show me a lot of work need to be done to get the hatch correct. It is very tedious work for little value added to the project. To minimize the hatch warping, I always set the floor as rectangular as possible and use the vertical cut. As well use railing to represent slot drain and use the floor as your guide. I rarely use as much points unless I have to conform to the topo. Don't go crazy with the points because 99% of the time someone will accidentally reset your work and all the hours you put on making it accurate will be gone in an instance.

 

minimized slab.png

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barthbradley
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Make your Channel Drain a Line-Based Linear Array Family. Check "Work Plane-Based uncheck "Always Vertical".  Include an unattached Void in the Family that will cut the Host in the Project by checking "Cuts with  Void When Loaded".  Now you can host Channel Drain sections to the sloping Floor sections -- and cut the opening.  

 

Trench Drain.jpg

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ToanDN
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- Create a wall following the drain path above the floor and attach the wall base to the floor
- Create an in place void sweep using pick path and pick the intersection lines between the wall and the floor
- Cut the floor using the void sweep and finish the in place model

 

ToanDN_0-1608317615494.png

 

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barthbradley
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Channel Floor Drain.jpg

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martijn_pater
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...at least that one doesn't defy gravity ^^

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Toph3
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Hello everybody! Thank you really for all the precious contributions :)! I am amazed at the many solutions and trials you proposed, I had a long break from revit to follow other projects but now I am back again and I will start from your suggestions right away.
I will keep in tune in case I need another feedback,
thank you really once again and I wish you all a happy new year, hope it started good!

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