Division Profile

[bbHQCSE]

I have created a family for division profile, but when I am trying to divide the wall, I get this message: ''Division family cannot be used for all widths of hosts. Division is performed without edge profiles.'', and then the division is just a straight line. 

Anyone has an idea what the issue might be?

Thank you in advance!

[RPTHOMAS108]

The error is telling you the profile doesn't work so it will not be used.

Usually it means the geometry of the profile doesn't fit within the thickness of the panel. Check the type dimensions of your division profile used and it's general form e.g. is the notch wider than panel thickness.

[ToanDN]

Have you associated the profile dimensions with parameters correctly (i.e. Width)?

[bbHQCSE]

  The width of the cut is the same as the width of the panel, but still, the cut is just a straight line. I don't understand... 

[bbHQCSE]

Both dimensions are the same, that is why I don't understand what the problem might be.

[bbHQCSE]

I need to create a profile that looks like this. Any other ideas on how I can achieve this without creating a division profile?

 

[RDAOU]

@bbHQCSE 

Why not attach the Division Profile Families you are using

[bbHQCSE]

You mean to attach the family here ?

[bbHQCSE]

This is the family. Just for the right side.

[RDAOU]

@bbHQCSE 

Yes to see how you are cutting the wall and with what...from what it sounds like, you seem to have divided all 3 layers/parts using 1 division line and you are using 1 Divsion Profile...which wont work

Note: To divide that you will need more than 1 profile...you cannot divide the 3 layers using the same profile.

1. You will need a Division profile for the core and another for the Finish Layers (IF they are of the same width).
2. If the finish layers are of different width then you will again need a different profile for each
3. And you need to divide the parts separately not the whole wall with 1 division line. (Reason: you can assign only 1 profile per division. Meaning, different part width = different division)

Example below...I am cutting the core with a simplified DP like urs, then the Finish layers separately using the same D (Flipped on the outer layer)

[bbHQCSE]

Alright! Thank you very much! So it means that I have to make 4 division family types for the right side and then 4 for the left side? 

[bbHQCSE]

Do you know a way to make the element easier and faster? 

[RDAOU]

@bbHQCSE 

It depends on the number of layer you intend to divide...If it is 1 layer you just need 1 if it is 4, it will depend on the width of each.

As for the profile family you attached, It has a flaw ...There is a gap. You need to extend the lines at top and botom to reach the strong references

After extending the lines..it will cut perfectly 

[bbHQCSE]

 So this is a wall profile that is 1150cm. Is there a way to make it as a whole element, which I can multiply*unite in order to make the layout of a building? 

 

[bbHQCSE]

Thank you so much!!!!

[bbHQCSE]

How did you managed to create this beauty?

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

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@bbHQCSE wrote:

How did you managed to create this beauty?

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@bbHQCSE 

See the assembly image in previous reply no.13 ... .rvt is also attached therein

1. Enabled Shape Handles and extended layers as needed
2. I divided the core and I used the profile you attached after fixing the lines (placed 2 division lines Start/End)
3. Excluded the end portions to eave the middle part which shows above

However, implementing this for the whole project would be quite tedious. I do not believe that this tool/option was intended for modeling the entire project with. It is meant more for generating particular details and not 900+ wall elements

For large scale application you might want to consider Curtain walls or Pattern Based curtain Panel

[bbHQCSE]

Isn't there a way to create somekind of template that anyone else can use afterwards?

[bbHQCSE]

''For large scale application you might want to consider Curtain walls or Pattern Based curtain Panel''. Then how do I do that?

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

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@bbHQCSE wrote:

Do you know a way to make the element easier and faster? 

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Aside from using curtain walls with custom curtain panel, you could create a reveal profile and place reveals to cut the walls before turn them to parts.