Cut and Fill values are not showing

Cut and Fill values are not showing

asadabbasi7RLF7
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Cut and Fill values are not showing

asadabbasi7RLF7
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I have created a topography and have followed all the steps posted in the previous posts.

 

- Created topography in the existing phase

- Graded region in the New Construction phase

- Creating a pad on the graded copy of the topography in the New Construction phase. 

 

However, I'm still seeing no values of cut and fill in the topography schedule. Tried changing the phasing views of the schedule too, but to no avail.

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barthbradley
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Where are you not seeing Cut/Fill?  In the Schedule? In the Properties of the Topo Infill created by the Pad? 

 

I suspect you are expecting to see Cut/Fill reported for the Graded Region Copy. That's not what you pull Cut/Fill from. Pull Cut/Fill from the Topo Infill.  

 

 

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asadabbasi7RLF7
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Thank you for your reply. I'm trying to get the cut/fill values in the topography schedule.

 

Here are a few screenshots.

 

Original topography in Existing phase

asadabbasi7RLF7_0-1703623986473.png

 

Graded region topography with building pad in the New Construction Phase

asadabbasi7RLF7_1-1703624028309.png

 

 

Topography schedule showing no values

asadabbasi7RLF7_2-1703624069841.png

 

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barthbradley
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Like I said above, the cut/fill quantities are properties of the Topo Infill. Hide Building Pad Category in View and then select just the Topo Infill (Tab-Select if necessary).  Once selected, you'll see the cut/fill quantities in the Topo Infill Instance Properties. Name the Topo Infill (maybe put that Name in Comments) and filter Schedule by Comments equals [Name of Top Infill].  

 

Name Topo Infill2.png

 

 

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asadabbasi7RLF7
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I have named it Pad 1

asadabbasi7RLF7_0-1703628850876.png

 

But still, I am not getting any values even after using a filter

 

asadabbasi7RLF7_1-1703628899717.png

 

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asadabbasi7RLF7
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Just to add more information on this in case it's helpful. I created the topography from a DXF import instance.

 

asadabbasi7RLF7_2-1703629114813.png

 

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barthbradley
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Post the file here

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asadabbasi7RLF7
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Here's the WeTransfer link to the file. The file size was above 71 MB so it was not allowing me to upload the file.

 

https://we.tl/t-qcrKgaiHzQ

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barthbradley
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I don't know what's going on with your Project. I copy/pasted your Existing Phase Toposurface into a brand new Project, Created a Graded Region Copy from it in a forward Phase (New Construction) and then created a Building Pad atop the Graded Region Copy.  Worked perfectly.  

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barthbradley
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TopoInfill22.png

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asadabbasi7RLF7
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Sounds good. I'll do the same. Thank you for taking out time to check the file. I am marking it solved.

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Alfredo_Medina
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@barthbradley ,

"the cut/fill quantities are properties of the Topo Infill."

Since when is this true for calculating cut & fill in topographies before Revit 2024? As far as I know, that used to work well without doing any extra steps or workarounds. It does not work in Revit 2024 but I understand that this thread is about a previous version.


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barthbradley
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@Alfredo_Medina wrote:

@barthbradley ,

"the cut/fill quantities are properties of the Topo Infill."

Since when is this true for calculating cut & fill in topographies before Revit 2024? As far as I know, that used to work well without doing any extra steps or workarounds. It does not work in Revit 2024 but I understand that this thread is about a previous version.


 

 

I'm not clear what you mean @Alfredo_Medina, but there's nothing inaccurate about that statement.  Did you see my screenshots above?  In the OP's case, I couldn't get cut/fill from their Project's Topo Infill for some reason. I could once I copied and pasted it to a new project however.  Worked like a charm then.  Got any insights as to why cut/fill wouldn't report in the OP's Project?  

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Alfredo_Medina
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Hi, @barthbradley 

My point is that before the 2024 version, it was not necessary to apply filters to a topography schedule to get cut & fill calculations. It simply worked without doing workarounds. When I saw your post I thought you had discovered some trick to make these calculations work in Revit 2024, but then I realized that the question refers to a previous version of Revit. So, why is it necessary to apply a filter to the schedule to get the result in this case?


Alfredo Medina _________________________________________________________________ ______
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barthbradley
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@Alfredo_Medina wrote:

Hi, @barthbradley 

My point is that before the 2024 version, it was not necessary to apply filters to a topography schedule to get cut & fill calculations. It simply worked without doing workarounds. When I saw your post I thought you had discovered some trick to make these calculations work in Revit 2024, but then I realized that the question refers to a previous version of Revit. So, why is it necessary to apply a filter to the schedule to get the result in this case?


 

A filter is not "required".  Nor am I suggesting any workarounds.  My point was that the cut/fill quantities are  properties of the Topo Infill. I was instructing the OP to name the Topo Infill and use filter to isolate that named element in the schedule to see those quantities. Once I saw OP's RVT, I saw what the problem was. There were no cut/fill quantities reporting for the Topo Infill.  I have no idea why. All I know is that it was right as rain after I copy/pasted the OPs Topo to a new Project and created the Graded Region Copy and Building Pad in that new Project.  Go figure.  

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soleiman_arish
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I have the same strange problem. If I copy them both in a new document it works fine!

 

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