Creating a structural foundation with slopes, curves & different elevations.

[AceDesignDrafting]

Hi guys,

I've a site that needs off site improvements,, curbs, sidewalks & driveways with handicap ramps.

My client want to have a rough idea of the amount of concrete he's going to have to buy, so I need to be able to place it in the concrete legend.  Does anyone out there know of a way to work around Revit to get this to work???  The sidewalks need to be 4" thick and the driveways need to be 6" thick.

I'm going to try to create a topo surface to conform to the thickness and elevations needed and the move it to the structural foundations family but I have know idea if it's going to work or not!!!

If anyone out there has been able to do this, please tell me how you did it.

I'm using Revit 2017.

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[chrisplyler]

I just make drives, walks, stoops, etc. out of Slabs. Is there some reason you can't do the same?

[AceDesignDrafting]

Hi,

Thanks for the reply but a slab can only be sloped in one direction and I need to follow the contour of a sloped grade. The sidewalk and curb also has several curves in it with too handicapped ramps.

Because of the curves and contour, the slab needs to be created using elevation points rather than a single slope that’s why it needs to be drawn with a topo and converted to a slab. Then it needs to be placed in the “structural foundation” family to be able to show the cubic feet of concrete need for this in the legend.

[Anonymous]

Roofs work better than slabs, and you can use the shape editing tools to provide slope.  

But if you are trying to create actual roadways with slopes,curves and tangents then you are going to have a tough time trying to do that in Revit.  You can use Revit to get a pretty picture of what is going to happen, but the actual design for building/estimation should be coming from a program that can do that, such as Civil3D.

[AceDesignDrafting]

I have the “Building Design Suite premium 2017” and am trying to provide my clients with as much information on there projects as I can, and I strive to make each project I do BETTER than the last project I did.

I am at a loss why slabs can not be drawn with more that one slop, We can draw roofs with multiple slops, why can’t we do the same with slabs???

I’ve placed the project in my dropbox for you so you can see exactly what I’m trying to do.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fwil2fnhhk1g83/D1504r.rvt?dl=0

Next to the street you can see the outline of the curb and sidewalk I’m trying to create. I still have to do the cut and fill first but I can’t do that until the client tells me what elevation he wants me to set the building pad and if he wants it to extend to the setback lines or go all the way out to the property lines.

[Anonymous]

Slabs are made to be flat...sloped in places like a garage.  Roofs work best, especially if you have curves as you can apply a sweep to them with a curb profile (Roof Fascia).  You can shape edit floors too, but applying sweeps to them don't work very well, or they get choppy.

BDS Premium unfortunately does not have Civil3D.  With the BD Suites going away next month though, the AEC Suite will have Civil3D.

[AceDesignDrafting]

At present, as I said, I am a DB Suite subscriber, and have been Since the Suite came out and I have been told that I’m grandfathered in as a Suite owner. If the the BD Suite is being fazed out, will you be replacing it with the AEC Suite. If so, will the cost factor be the same? Also how will the AEC Suite be different than the BD Suite premiun?

[Anonymous]

We are keeping our licenses for BDS Premium and Ultimate...in my opinion the subscriptions are too expensive in the long run, but it would be nice to get Civil 3D.

BDS Premium is $2730 currently a year....the AEC Suite is almost the same, but it will include Civil3D, Plant3D, Vehicle Tracking and InfraWorks. Basically it is a combination of Buidling, Infrastructure and Plant Design Suites and for about $40 less a year.

[chrisplyler]

http://au.autodesk.com/au-online/classes-on-demand/class-catalog/2013/revit-for-architects/ab3340#ch...

[Anonymous]

That was a fun class to attend...both at AU and RTC...as I forgot how to do something and decided to attend the lab.