Cannot load models with steel fabrication elements as group.

[Anonymous]

In the specifical condition that we realize models in Rvt 2020 with steel objects ( in this case structural connection and framing) and we aim to load them as a group or to link and bind into a particular rte template ,already realized,  , which pathwork is the best to match  the revit project  2020 developed with the new template created ( supposing that we prepare the project before the template)?

1 Load it as a group does not match, warning error says: Cannot load models with steel fabrication elements as group.

2 Insert as a link and than bind does not match: warning error says Unable to bind some link instances. Either the link contains no 3d elements or there was an error loading its elements into the current project.

Thanks to All for your time

[Rafal.Gaweda]

Hi @Anonymous 

We can't group fabrication elements, this is a known limitation in Revit.

Bind command tries to create a group out of all the geometry elements.

Because there are fabrication elements inside the project, the group can't be created.  

This is a feature request that might be taken into account in future Revit versions.

[Anonymous]

I have exactly the same problem, so I "cleaned" my model, erased all connections, all features, all screws, all anchors, all plates in the original Advance Steel model, but it still doesn't work. Do you have any suggestions to that?

I created a simple model with only four beams, and than it worked.

Than I begin to test the original model. First I tried to insert a couple of elements --> worked, than I tried to insert a few more elements --> failed. Is there any quantity limit? Or I simply don't find the "problem item".

I would be really happy if I got some help!

[Anonymous]

Did you find a solution for this?

[johnjmbennett]

Hi,

so when you apply any element from the steel fabrication ribbon tab, the beam in revit is changed to a steel fabrication type, the process is irreversible, so even if you delete all connections, features etc., the host element is still a fabrication type beam.

this AKN explains this process, it can also be found under the direct Revit help. 

 https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/ENU/Revit-M...

if you require several objects connected together then a weld is the best way to turn them into an assembly, as it would be seen for steel fabrication.

hope that helps

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the clarification.