Cannot control Elevation of an object - disappearing parameter

[danezeq]

i cannot find the "Elevation" parameter in the Famitly types window (inside family editor), thus i cannot schedule it.

Besides, Why does shedule fields window dont allow to add Elevation field? is it beacuse it's instance parameter and not type parameter?

this is the missing parameter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DQH1ygJ6Ag

Elevation missing from schedules propeties window screenshot:

[barthbradley]

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[danezeq]

i added "elevation" to the schdule as shared parameter but there is no connection between them

as you can see - the shedule doesnt give the value:

it make sense beacuse the "elevation" parameter in the sign family is not shared. i dont find any way to approach it and change it to shared.

EDIT: sorry if the image is too small. on the right screen you can see that the column "elevation" stays empty.

[ToanDN]

Something weird. Why am I not seeing Schedule Level and Elevation from Level in the properties of the sign? Do you even have a Level in your file?

[barthbradley]

You need to drive the Family Geometry with a Labeled Dimension -- labeled to a Shared Parameter.  

Post your family and I'll show you. 

[danezeq]

not sure i understand your last comment.

[barthbradley]

Face-Based??? No can do. Sorry.   

[danezeq]

Right now the parameter "Elevation" is functioning well. if i set it to 0 the signs actually sits on the floor.

I just want present this value in schedule. is it possible somehow?

[danezeq]

The "Default Elevation" is an built in family parameter. cant be schduled.

But it's possible to make a shared parameter with formula that says [shared parameter] = defualt elevation)

my problem is that it isn't possible to put this as formula: [shared parameter]= Elevation.

that mysterious "Elevation" parameter is invisible, unreacheable can't be approached.

[ToanDN]

No.
The Default elevation only sets the elevation of the element when you place it in a plan view, or give you a fainted guide line when you place the element in an elevation view. Changing the element elevation after placing it will not change the Default elevation. Therefore it has no value whatsoever for reporting the actual elevation of the elements in the project. Create a shared parameter and refer it to Default elevation also does nothing of value in reporting the actual elevation of the elements.

Again, your browser shows no floor plans.  Do you even have a Level in the project?

[danezeq]

😞 this family is hopeless?

[ToanDN]

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@danezeq wrote:

😞 this family is hopeless?

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Share it.

[danezeq]

already did. it's

Room Signage_as_ft_postoforum.rfa

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Since it is a face based, you need a workaround.  You have to lock the bottom grip to the level.  See the file.

p/s: you can politely ask @RDAOU to give you Dynamo script to extract the actual Elevation value to a shared parameter for a more automated workflow.

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

@danezeq 

"Elevation from Level" can be scheduled in version 2020. Here is the dynamo @ToanDN mentioned you can use it to copy the elevation to the shared parameter...I somehow sure this same thing was being discussed with @danezeq  on another post even had the screencast uploaded but was still a pending draft yesterday!!!...

Dynamo v.2.01 (OOTB basic nodes)

[danezeq]

@ToanDN, THANKS!

So you did what i trying to go all night - you've found a way to to place a reference plane that acts as the level.

i'm amaized. How did you lock that reference plane to the level if there so level line in the family?

[danezeq]

Thank you @RDAOU  for helping me even before i asked! 🙂 so "Elevation from Level" - can be sheduled in this methood only on 2020 version? (this project im working on is on 2019 version)

[RDAOU]

@danezeq  No... what I meant is that in 2020 the parameter is there and available for scheduling

The dynamo graph in the above reply is for you to do it in 2019...

• create a shared parameter (instance)
• call it Elevation from Level
• the attached graph is  Dynamo 2.01 (but you should be able to replicate it on any version since the nodes used are the out of the box ones - no packages required)

The same should answer/close your other post

[danezeq]

What can i say? one problem, two solutions!

this place teach me more then my academic studies 8 years ago.

[danezeq]

i cannot open the file: