Callout Tag Head Modification

[Anonymous]

I am trying to customize a callout tag and omit the bubble head portion. In place of the bubble callout head i would like to place a leader.  (see attached WORD file w/ screen shots).  I tried duplicating the callout tag type but its not allowing me to just make one callout tag with no head.  Can anyone help me?  

[barthbradley]

No head? Just a leader and arrow?  

[Anonymous]

@barthbradley

Well i want to get rid of the bubble portion and if possible the leader coming out of the callout.  Yes just to have a leader with arrow coming out from the callout box.

[barthbradley]

Make the label read a parameter that will never have a value, or associate a visibility TYPE parameter to it and have it turned off by default.   

[Sahay_R]

Save a copy of the OOTB Callout Head family. Switch out the circle for an arrowhead. Move the label to a new appropriate position (if you need it at all, if not, delete it. When you place the callout, it will automatically create a leader (not necessarily curved to the new Callout Head arrow. Let me know how it works.

[ToanDN]

Why bother with callouts, just use a generic annotation symbol for the callout so you can add a leader freely.

[Corsten.Au]

[Anonymous]

@barthbradley

Seems like a way to go about it, but how would i do that?  I like the visibility idea to turn on and off, and if that could work on just this instance and not update all callouts in the project.

[Sahay_R]

@Anonymous - you would need to create types in the tag family, and then callout view types in the project.

[Anonymous]

Yes, that i could do as well.  In fact that is what i ended up doing for now.  However ive come across this before and would like to find a way to be able to manipulate that family.  Can system families be duplicated and saved as?

[Anonymous]

@Corsten.Au,

This is the system family break down for callouts.  I guess looks like i would get rid of or hide visibility of the right most info. (which shows up in the bubble).

[Anonymous]

Thanks @Sahay_R

I went into Edit Type and duplicated the tag, ( i think), and still had the family not working.  Could you p;ease elaborate the process?

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

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@Anonymous wrote:

@barthbradley

Seems like a way to go about it, but how would i do that?  I like the visibility idea to turn on and off, and if that could work on just this instance and not update all callouts in the project.

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Open your Callout Head family that is assign to the Tag and associate the label's Visibility parameter to an ON/OFF Type Parameter (created by you).  Create a new Family TYPE (e.g. "1/2" Invisible") with the default ON/OFF position unchecked; load it into your project and use that "Invisible" head Type in another Tag Type (Duplicate/Rename method)  for use in those instances where you you don't want any label shown.   

[Anonymous]

Thank you @barthbradley 🙂 Im gonna give that a try.  Could be also a way to deal with the length of View Titles on a sheet!

[ToanDN]

How do you add a leader with arrowhead to the call-out even with the bubble turned off? For a better understanding, what is the arrow pointing to?

[Anonymous]

@ToanDN

I am pointing to a blown up portion of a plan.  I used a in house text style called "Leader" that has no text attached, so basically you just get a leader with a void text placeholder (with not text to the right or left of the leader).  That portion i would tuck or align into the call out tag box.  

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

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@Anonymous wrote:

@ToanDN

I am pointing to a blown up portion of a plan.  I used a in house text style called "Leader" that has no text attached, so basically you just get a leader with a void text placeholder (with not text to the right or left of the leader).  That portion i would tuck or align into the call out tag box.  

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Since you are giving up on the bubble so you no longer need the call-out "lives", you could use a generic annotation family so that you can leader(s) more easily.

[Anonymous]

@ToanDN

That makes more sense i guess since the original way puts alot of limitations on the overwriting of the system family.  I did not know you could create a generic annotation family (DUH :/)  I will have to look into creating one then, as it does take all the work out of modifying the system family. Thank you!

[eachtenKT4TA]

Hello Fellow Revit user

This thread is a couple years old, but this diagram is extremely useful. Where did you source this image from? Having a hierarchy tree breakdown of all family types like this would be extremely useful for understanding the order to edit system families.