Assign Area Parameter to Model Text

[arsham]

Hello,

I want to show the area of opening and glazing on my window families. As far as I know, we can't put label on elevations in families, so the only way I thought is to put model text on it. but i have a problem locking the text parameter to an area parameter. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Δrsham

[loboarch]

There is no restriction on placing a tag/label in an elevation view. I would include that information as a parameter on the window and then make a window tag that reads the area value.

[arsham]

thanks but we are already doing it and it's time consuming.

i need to find a way to show it on the family. they are already doing it in autocad with dynamic blocks, it would be disaster if i can't do it in revit.

[loboarch]

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@arsham wrote:

thanks but we are already doing it and it's time consuming.

i need to find a way to show it on the family.

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Time consuming?  Have you tried "Tag All Not Tagged"?  You could tag literally EVERY window in a view  in 2 or 3 clicks. The tags might need some adjusting afterward in some situations, but are probably ok in most situations.

[arsham]

no comments...

[barthbradley]

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@arsham wrote:

Hello,

I want to show the area of opening and glazing on my window families. As far as I know, we can't put label on elevations in families, so the only way I thought is to put model text on it. but i have a problem locking the text parameter to an area parameter. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Δrsham

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When you say you "Have a problem locking the [Model] text parameter to an area parameter", do you mean that you can't associate the Model Text's "Text" parameter to the "Area" Parameter?  Is the "Area" Parameter a "Text" Parameter?  

[arsham]

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do you mean that you can't associate the Model Text's "Text" parameter to the "Area" Parameter?  Is the "Area" Parameter a "Text" Parameter?  

yes and yes, i also tried other types of parameters but it won't work. it either says that this parameter type cannot be defined by formulas or inconsistent units.

[barthbradley]

Interesting. Never associated the Model Text to a Parameter before.  Apparently, I can't be done.  Well, what's Plan B? Tagging? 

[arsham]

yes it's tagging, but those who are switching from autocad to revit in my firm are already complaining about it cuz they have it in their dynamic blocks in autocad. as suggested above (like i didn't know how to do it) there's tag all option with 2-3 clicks of work, but we are not working on doghouses here.

[ToanDN]

It can be done. I've done it for Room and Building signage. Although, I am not convinced using model text for tagging purpose is a good idea.

[arsham]

can you please explain how you did it?

[ToanDN]

Which version are you?

[arsham]

2017.2

[barthbradley]

I understand the growing pains. We went through them too, when we transitioned to Revit.  The biggest obstacle was shaking our AutoCAD mindset.  

That being said; I would take a hard look at tagging as an alternative to what you're trying to accomplished. This issue you're having, is going to come up again and again.  Model Text is not a good solution -- it's merely a workaround devised by an AutoCAD mindset.  

[loboarch]

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@barthbradley wrote:

I understand the growing pains. We went through them too, when we transitioned to Revit.  The biggest obstacle was shaking our AutoCAD mindset.  

That being said; I would take a hard look at tagging as an alternative to what you're trying to accomplished. This issue you're having, is going to come up again and again.  Model Text is not a good solution -- it's merely a workaround devised by an AutoCAD mindset.  

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I would agree with this. I suspect the difficulties of using model text as a tag  in an elevation view is going to be far more "time consuming" than the 2 or 3 clicks it takes to tag windows in an elevation view.

[arsham]

again, no comments...

[ToanDN]

I re-read you posts and realized you want to automate the Area value to the model text label?  That cannot be done because the Model text label must be of Multiline text parameter.  You still have to manually enter the value to update it.

Again, I only use it for signage, parking id, graffiti, etc... to match the actual content of each sign to the model text.  I would not use it for tagging.

[loboarch]

This works fine, but you are going to have to manually coordinate the area typed value to the actual area. Possibility to introduce error. Doing it with a tag it will be "automatic". (Except for the couple of clicks it takes to tag the element  )

[ToanDN]

Can't disagree.

[arsham]

thanks for your help, but this is done manually, i can't do this. although dynamo can help but i dont want to hear more complains.

thanks a lot again,