adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin
Explorer Explorer
3,373 Views
16 Replies
Message 1 of 17

adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer
I basically have one wall in front of another wall but on of these two is a component model in place wall and I am trying to add a door or window to these two joined wall.

 

But when I do, It will only go thru one of the two walls. Does anyone know how to get the doors and windows to cut through both walls?

 

thanks in advance

0 Likes
Accepted solutions (2)
3,374 Views
16 Replies
Replies (16)
Message 2 of 17

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant

Joining the walls not working? 

 

If not, it sounds like the family is using a Void Cut and not a Opening Cut. In that case, make sure the Void Extrusion extends well beyond the Host Wall in the Family and use Cut Geometry to manually Cut the other Project Walls with the Void in the Family. 

 

Post your Family here if you want us to look at it.  

Message 3 of 17

ToanDN
Consultant
Consultant

Edit: just looked at your picture. Making the void in the family longer should fix it.

 

Join geometry the walls. Use cut opening in the door or window family then it should cut both walls in project.  If you use a void in the door or window family then the void should be long enough to cut through both walls in project.

Message 4 of 17

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer

Not working, one is a model in place wall and the second one is an architectural wall.

0 Likes
Message 5 of 17

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant

You need to manually cut the Opening in  the Project  -- or use a Void Opening in the Family as mentioned above.  

 

Why are you using an In-Place Modeled Wall in the first place?  Maybe there's a better solution for that.  

Message 6 of 17

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer

Same problem here, even if I create a void in the window family (long enough) this will cut just the wall where the window is placed. Seems like there's no relation (even after joint wall) between a model in place wall and a architectural wall. Here attached two screenshots.

Also I've tried with cut opening, same result. 

0 Likes
Message 7 of 17

ToanDN
Consultant
Consultant

In-place wall?  Then edit the family, do not cut the host wall with the void, set the family to Cut with Void when loaded, and use Cut geometry twice to cut the system wall and the in-lace wall in the project. 

 

Why does it need to be in-place model?

Message 8 of 17

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer

I created a void extrusion on the Model In Place wall. Then cut and select void and the wall behind. That will do it but the thing is that the window doesn't stretch to the second wall, bit annoying (see pictures).

How can I set the family to Cut with void when loaded?I'll try this way.

0 Likes
Message 9 of 17

ToanDN
Consultant
Consultant

@d.bettin wrote:

I created a void extrusion on the Model In Place wall. Then cut and select void and the wall behind. That will do it but the thing is that the window doesn't stretch to the second wall, bit annoying (see pictures).

How can I set the family to Cut with void when loaded?I'll try this way.


I meant the void in the window family, not in the in place family.  You can see Cut with Void when loaded option from the Properties in the window family.

 

ToanDN_0-1659024095292.png

 

ToanDN_1-1659024146675.png

 

 

 

 

Message 10 of 17

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant

Void Cut 728.png

Message 11 of 17

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer

Same result, 😕

See screnshots.

I also tried a new model from scratch but no success. For now the only solution it's the void in the wall separate from the window.

0 Likes
Message 12 of 17

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant

The fastest and easiest way for us to help you is by looking at your file.  Post the RVT here.   Know how?  

Message 13 of 17

ToanDN
Consultant
Consultant

@d.bettin wrote:

Same result, 😕

See screnshots.

I also tried a new model from scratch but no success. For now the only solution it's the void in the wall separate from the window.


See edited post showing the pictures of a window with a void cutting through a system wall and an in-place wall.

Message 14 of 17

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer

Correct?

level 2, LHS corner.

 

Can you open it?

0 Likes
Message 15 of 17

ToanDN
Consultant
Consultant
Accepted solution

@d.bettin wrote:

Correct?

level 2, LHS corner.

 

Can you open it?


You almost got it.  Just use Cut geometry to cut the system furring wall with the window.

 

ToanDN_0-1659024831305.png

 

 

Message 16 of 17

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant
Accepted solution

CUT GEOMETRY as mentioned above.  

 

Cut Geometry7.png

 

Cut Geometry8.png

Message 17 of 17

d.bettin
Explorer
Explorer

Thank you both.

It's working and it's a good solution for the moment.

The only annoying thing I have to find a solution for it's to automatically extend the window sill to the entire wall pack.

If you have any suggestion that would be great, otherwise I will start another topic later on 🙂

0 Likes