Adaptive points family - Asphalt segment ideas/solutions

[karlotomic]

Hello everyone!!

I decided to ask internet for help after trying myself enough of times… I recently, about few weeks ago, started playing in Revit, on my own since my studies are based on structural analysis and I want to do a little extra on the BIM side, through courses on LinkedINLearning. I've gotten pretty far, but families and adaptive components are a world of their own.

I want to make an adaptive points family of an asphalt segment that will be placed on some girder. Problem is this asphalt profile has its fixed and free slopes and sides that also follow the steel girder plates. Slopes on the ends need to exist for cleansing gully, but as the road has curves, one or other side of asphalt profile must rise to meet road slope design.

I already have lists of bottom points (where adaptive points go) derived from polyline in AutoCAD, that I can use in Dynamo, for grouping those coordinate points into groups of for example 6, so I can place my asphalt family along those 6 points and shoot it up the rest of the bridge. This is all fine, problem is the family itself. In video it is show how my family doesn't behave as I want it to behave.

I hope some of you have an advice or a solution for me on how to maybe edit my family to behave better. There are also some pictures of my earlier attempts but I wanted to make it much more detailed, as presented in a video and 'Family 5' file.

I've attached a WinRAR file attached that contains jpg, revit family, (2019) cadfile (2019) and one video (showing one of my failed models in work) inside. 

Thank you all for your feedback and advice in advanced, but I'll probably thank you again as we work through this if anyone can help!

[karlotomic]

Hello everyone!!

I decided to ask internet for help after trying myself enough of times… I recently, about few weeks ago, started playing in Revit, on my own since my studies are based on structural analysis and I want to do a little extra on the BIM side, through courses on LinkedINLearning. I've gotten pretty far, but families and adaptive components are a world of their own.

I want to make an adaptive points family of an asphalt segment that will be placed on some girder. Problem is this asphalt profile has its fixed and free slopes and sides that also follow the steel girder plates. Slopes on the ends need to exist for cleansing gully, but as the road has curves, one or other side of asphalt profile must rise to meet road slope design.

I already have lists of bottom points (where adaptive points go) derived from polyline in AutoCAD, that I can use in Dynamo, for grouping those coordinate points into groups of for example 6, so I can place my asphalt family along those 6 points and shoot it up the rest of the bridge. This is all fine, problem is the family itself. In video it is show how my family doesn't behave as I want it to behave.

I hope some of you have an advice or a solution for me on how to maybe edit my family to behave better. There are also some pictures of my earlier attempts but I wanted to make it much more detailed, as presented in a video and 'Family 5' file.

I've attached a WinRAR file attached that contains jpg, revit family, (2019) cadfile (2019) and one video (showing one of my failed models in work) inside. 

Thank you all for your feedback and advice in advanced, but I'll probably thank you again as we work through this if anyone can help!

[barthbradley]

I don't understand what you're trying to model.  Can you perhaps post a real-life photo of what you're trying to model in Revit?  

[barthbradley]

I don't understand what you're trying to model.  Can you perhaps post a real-life photo of what you're trying to model in Revit?  

[karlotomic]

Okay, I need for this asphalt segment to be adaptive to the steel girder profile. Road varies in slopes along the curves, so I want asphalt to follow a set of points derived from polyline that are actually edge points of the asphalt profile (yellow circles in the picture)  (using Dynamo).

So if I have a family of 6 adaptive points (Family5) I can use Dynamo to send it along those lists of points. That's not the problem, problem is how to make this family behave the way I want it to behave. In the video attached to the first post, it doesn't. I will try one more idea today,doubt it will work tho.

3rd picture is an example, but I want to try and have it more detailed with visible slope differences on the upper side of the asphalt profile (used for cleansing gully). (profile drawn in first post dwg file)

[karlotomic]

Okay, I need for this asphalt segment to be adaptive to the steel girder profile. Road varies in slopes along the curves, so I want asphalt to follow a set of points derived from polyline that are actually edge points of the asphalt profile (yellow circles in the picture)  (using Dynamo).

So if I have a family of 6 adaptive points (Family5) I can use Dynamo to send it along those lists of points. That's not the problem, problem is how to make this family behave the way I want it to behave. In the video attached to the first post, it doesn't. I will try one more idea today,doubt it will work tho.

3rd picture is an example, but I want to try and have it more detailed with visible slope differences on the upper side of the asphalt profile (used for cleansing gully). (profile drawn in first post dwg file)

[karlotomic]

Thank you for replying to my post @barthbradley !!

I can not see the reply text for some reason.

[karlotomic]

Thank you for replying to my post @barthbradley !!

I can not see the reply text for some reason.

[barthbradley]

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@karlotomic wrote:

Thank you for replying to my post @barthbradley !!

I can not see the reply text for some reason.

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That's because I deleted it. After re-examining your screenshots, I wasn't confident about what I wrote. I'm still not fully grasping what is that you are modeling, and your screenshots are hard to decipher.  It sounds like you are attaching grade beams, one-by-one, to the underside of the pavement using an Adaptive Point family.  If so, I think there is a smarter way to do this.  Bottom line: I need more information about the construct to advise you properly.  Maybe, posting your file would help.  

[barthbradley]

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@karlotomic wrote:

Thank you for replying to my post @barthbradley !!

I can not see the reply text for some reason.

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That's because I deleted it. After re-examining your screenshots, I wasn't confident about what I wrote. I'm still not fully grasping what is that you are modeling, and your screenshots are hard to decipher.  It sounds like you are attaching grade beams, one-by-one, to the underside of the pavement using an Adaptive Point family.  If so, I think there is a smarter way to do this.  Bottom line: I need more information about the construct to advise you properly.  Maybe, posting your file would help.