3D PDF

[dgizzim0]

Some time ago, I used Adobe Reader (the basic one) to view and rotate a 3D model from Autocad. Yes, I know that I can export a Revit model into a DWFX and view it in Design Review, but that requires a ferr Design Review download. Some clients don't have administrator rights, are too lazy, don't have the computer savy to install, etc..., so a PDF 3D model would be nice.

---Is this possible with Revit?

---Is this possible with Autocad?

I have Adobe X Pro where I can enable this if Revit and CAD have the ability to print a 3D PDF.

[Anonymous]

I wanted to circle back and give everyone an update on Autodesk Products and 3D PDF. Based on the feedback to this thread, both personally and at www.tetra4d.com, we have just release a suite of 3D PDF for Autodesk plugins that include,

3D PDF for Revit

3D PDF for Autocad

3D PDF for Navisworks

3D PDF for Maya

3D PDF for 3dsMax

and

3D PDF for inventor

All of  these products are direct plugin for the Autodesk application, and allow you to "create 3D PDF" with a simple mouse click. We applicaable, this alos includes your 3D models/views along with the 2D Drawing, all to a single PDF.

Unlike 3D PDF Converter, which is built to run inside of Acrobat and primarily used by consumers of the 3D CAD data, these products do not require Acrobat X Pro and are designed for the creators of the CAD data. However, they are compatible with both 3D PDF Converter an Acrobat X Pro and can be purchased as a bundle.

These new products were release at AU 2012, with 3D PDF for Autocad recieveing 3rd place in the Autodesk Apphack Competition with a live demo to a large audience of users and media.

If your interested in learning more - please go to www.tetra4D.com/products - try them free today.

[dgizzim0]

It's just unfortunate that you pay big bucks for either Autocad and/or Revit and it is not fully functional. Revit is a 3D product and should have a 3D print option as a standard feature. What if Revit didn't have a print or save option and you had to purchase another product to do so. Well, I bought Bluebeam Extreme and this solves the problem for a fraction of what Adobe would charge for their software.

[MichaelSchell8453]

Recommend going to the Autodesk exchange store for your 3D PDF solutions. There is a AEA trusted app for free download and cost is $109.00. Check it out. 2 versions standalone or full version avaliable.

[octavio2]

Michael, I have never have used those apps before (and looked at them for the first time today after seeing your post), so I let me ask, it says there that it expires in 15 days, what does that exactly means, that after 15 days I have to purchase it?, and is so, for how much, or that after  15 days II cannot use it any more and/or have to download it?

[LisaDrago · Accepted solution]

Just a thought - Bluebeam puts a plug-in right into Revit to create a 3d PDF in 1 click (well 2 if you count saving it).

It works great and I use it all the time and a lot cheaper then Adobe

Image attached showing the plug-in in revit .

If you want the PDF I can email it - too big to put up here.

LD

[dgizzim0 · Accepted solution]

Since the time I originally wrote this, Bluebeam came out with an add-on to Revit that will create 3D models. I think the problem is solved. It is cheaper than Adobe or Tetra4D...and it doubles as a PDF creator, review, mark-up, and reader. By far, this beats it all

[MichaelSchell8453]

Dgizzim0...

You may be misinformed on the price situation and the quality difference. The version from Autodesk Exchange App store is only $149.00 and is much cheaper and offers a better output in my opinion. The full version with Adobe is higher in price, but suited and bundled for users looking to upgrade. Maybe, worth another look. Cheers

www.3dasystems.com

[Anonymous]

Hey guys, I just came across tetra4d’s new plugins. They’re awesome. You can use your company logos as background templates, but the best things is that you can create your PDF directly from Revit. Here’s the link:   http://www.tetra4d.com/3d-pdf-for-revit 

Check it out. It’s cool.

JG

[Anonymous]

Hey Dgizzim0,

I posted an earlier response, but want to comment on bluebeam. Most of our customers don’t want to download an addition thing juts to view a pdf.  I’ve been using tetra4d’s new plugins, and I love it. I bought it while at AU and so far, so good. I

JG

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[dgizzim0]

Jonny, It seems as if you were a rep for Tetra3D. It's way too expensive for what it does, $500-1000, and there are more options that cost more as well. I'm just an end user and Bluebeam is perfect for me

[Anonymous]

I only paid $200 for the plugin plus I received a 25% discount while at AU. I think you're referring to their other products.
JG

[MichaelSchell8453]

3D PDF Converter for Revit 2014/2013/2012- $189.00

Don't have to spend that much to get the same results: http://www.3dasystems.com/

[MichaelSchell8453]

3D PDF is an integrated software working within the Revit® environment that enables users to publish rich, interactive, 3D PDF files that are significantly smaller than the original Revit® 3D models. The software uses the Adobe® 3D Technology as a one button file conversion that is easily exchangeable and viewed with the free Adobe® Reader. www.3dasystems.com

[jesper]

3D PDF is nice, we use it to show FEM + CFD analysis results to our clients - much better than sending images!! Also when doing 3D scanning it's useful to send scanned geometry as 3D PDF because our clients can take measurements on the geometry, in the 3D pdf document! see example:

http://www.libak.dk/documents/Tank_S235_fea.pdf
http://libak.dk/documents/brandtrappe_3D.pdf
http://www.libak.dk/documents/3Dcfd_libak_p94_filter.pdf

What about the "new" webgl?:

3D scanning with model of staircase:

http://www.libak.dk/webgl/trappe1/
http://www.libak.dk/webgl/trappe3/

Steel tank:
http://www.libak.dk/webgl/tank2_3D/02-837.html
http://www.libak.dk/webgl/tank2_3D/tank2_fea.html

[ulasdeniz]

I have another solution which has a cost about $100 if you have a 3s MAX. Simlab Exporter. You should export the revit model into 3ds Max (Linking is also possible I think) then Export to the  3d PDF. You can download the trial version for 15 days. 

[Anonymous]

I also have a couple questions concerning making 3D PDF's.  I currently make them all the time and they seem to work great when it comes processing towers.  You are able to deselect everything and just have turned on what you need.

However I am having problems when we are using Phasing and then creating a 3d PDF.  When I create the 3D PDF it puts both phases in the 3D PDF and I am unable to figure out how to get each phase as one 3D PDF model.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Allen

[ulasdeniz]

Actually there are a new solution of 3d PDF for Autodesk products and other platforms. Inventor publisher has its own 3d PDF creation feature. you can create also animated 3d PDF in Inventor Publisher too. Just Export the FBX (or other proper formats like SAT but DWG is not usefull as I tested.) of the Revit model. Dont forget to export each phase seperatelyu. then import into the Inventor Publisher. both phases are different element but their visibilities can be controlled in Inventor publisher. create the three snapshots for each condition:  first phase visible only, second phase visible only and both are visible conditions. Then export the document as 3d PDF inside the Inventor Publisher. just it. 

You can create unlimited schenerios inside the Publisher. you can assign materials, change materials animate the elements or wall parts etc. also you can hide or isolete individual elements too. So phasing is not required actuall. But phasing will be easier to seperate from beginning. 

[lamensterms]

Bentley View is capable of printing 3D PDFs (and free).

The program is a little dated, but seems to work pretty well with all models I've tried.  PDFs readable with Adobe Reader.

http://www.bentley.com/en-AU/Free+Software/bentley+view.htm