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What is a good 3d laser scanner to use with Recap? *or other software

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What is a good 3d laser scanner to use with Recap? *or other software

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 Hello people ^-^ I would like to start a business soon, and I want to start with Museum objects and historical buildings. Currently I`m using my DSLR / phone camera to capture and create the 3d model with Autodesk Remake and I`m pretty satisfied with the output but I feel I can take it to the next step.

 

My question is, which scanner should I consider buying if I have the budget up to 20.000$ ? I need them to be colored of course. (I`m looking at Leica blk 360 and Faro focus)

 

(obvious I would like it if it's 10.000 so I can afford a few thousand on a good computer)

 

Thank you !

What is a good 3d laser scanner to use with Recap? *or other software

 Hello people ^-^ I would like to start a business soon, and I want to start with Museum objects and historical buildings. Currently I`m using my DSLR / phone camera to capture and create the 3d model with Autodesk Remake and I`m pretty satisfied with the output but I feel I can take it to the next step.

 

My question is, which scanner should I consider buying if I have the budget up to 20.000$ ? I need them to be colored of course. (I`m looking at Leica blk 360 and Faro focus)

 

(obvious I would like it if it's 10.000 so I can afford a few thousand on a good computer)

 

Thank you !

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Anonymous
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Hello Alex,

 

Look at the Faro Focus M, it's a "low coast" laser scanner. I don't know if it's already commercialised, but if I remenber well, it will coast about 20.000.

 

For my part, I have a Faro Focus X130, and it's a very good product. I use it with ReCap and it's perfect !

For the computer, I advice you an Intel i7 with minimum 32Go RAM and mémory SSD.

 

Good luck with your futur business

 

Best Regards

 

 

Hello Alex,

 

Look at the Faro Focus M, it's a "low coast" laser scanner. I don't know if it's already commercialised, but if I remenber well, it will coast about 20.000.

 

For my part, I have a Faro Focus X130, and it's a very good product. I use it with ReCap and it's perfect !

For the computer, I advice you an Intel i7 with minimum 32Go RAM and mémory SSD.

 

Good luck with your futur business

 

Best Regards

 

 

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Hey ! I just had the chance to look at Faro Focus 70, it was an Expo today 😄 tomorrow I will ask for a small demo. 

They said it's around 26000Euro here .. 

I`m happy that you ar satisfied with the Faro Focus ! Could you give me a bit of details maybe ?

a) How does it handle with scanning a person ?

b) Do you have to work on the model after ?

c) Does it take 3 min for 360 scan ?

d) is the color good on the 3d model after the scan ?

 

Also, what do you think about Leica Blk 360 ?

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Hey ! I just had the chance to look at Faro Focus 70, it was an Expo today 😄 tomorrow I will ask for a small demo. 

They said it's around 26000Euro here .. 

I`m happy that you ar satisfied with the Faro Focus ! Could you give me a bit of details maybe ?

a) How does it handle with scanning a person ?

b) Do you have to work on the model after ?

c) Does it take 3 min for 360 scan ?

d) is the color good on the 3d model after the scan ?

 

Also, what do you think about Leica Blk 360 ?

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Anonymous
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Hi, 

- I don't advice you to scan person with this scanner, HandScan are more appropriate for that.

But you can try, i think it's works more or less.

 

- The treatment is done very well with ReCap and you just have to remove few points. You can also transform in Mesh.

 

- For the time of scanning, mine doing scan in 1 minute and half, and 5 minutes with colors (with photos 360)

 

- The colors is very good, and the rendering is beautifull  (70M pixels)

 

- However, i can't give you opinion about Leica, I just try FARO.

 

I hope that will help you

 

Best Regards

Hi, 

- I don't advice you to scan person with this scanner, HandScan are more appropriate for that.

But you can try, i think it's works more or less.

 

- The treatment is done very well with ReCap and you just have to remove few points. You can also transform in Mesh.

 

- For the time of scanning, mine doing scan in 1 minute and half, and 5 minutes with colors (with photos 360)

 

- The colors is very good, and the rendering is beautifull  (70M pixels)

 

- However, i can't give you opinion about Leica, I just try FARO.

 

I hope that will help you

 

Best Regards

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the reply ! Please tell me, what Faro are you using ? I have seen a live demo with Faro Focus x130, and in my budget of 20.000$/Euro is the M70. 

Also, you don't recommend scanning people with Faro / Leica ? Why is that ? Because the laser equipped is safe (so they say). 

 

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Thanks for the reply ! Please tell me, what Faro are you using ? I have seen a live demo with Faro Focus x130, and in my budget of 20.000$/Euro is the M70. 

Also, you don't recommend scanning people with Faro / Leica ? Why is that ? Because the laser equipped is safe (so they say). 

 

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Hi,

I'm using the Faro Focus X130

 

The laser is safe, i don't recommande you for scan people just because it's more accurate with HandScanner like Artec EVA. But i let you try, that should be work.

 

Please accept the solution if i answer everything

 

Thank you

 

Best Regards

Hi,

I'm using the Faro Focus X130

 

The laser is safe, i don't recommande you for scan people just because it's more accurate with HandScanner like Artec EVA. But i let you try, that should be work.

 

Please accept the solution if i answer everything

 

Thank you

 

Best Regards

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Anonymous
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Thank you for the kind reply ! I understand that for small scans I need a small scanner** ;
Could you share one scan that you made with Faro x130 so I can actually see how it is and how you can manipulate it ?
Wish you a great day !
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Thank you for the kind reply ! I understand that for small scans I need a small scanner** ;
Could you share one scan that you made with Faro x130 so I can actually see how it is and how you can manipulate it ?
Wish you a great day !
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Hi Alex,

 

I let you watch my project on the Gallery community :

 

https://gallery.autodesk.com/recap/projects/patio-essec

 

However, you just have panoramics photos.

 

I can't send you the global project ...

 

Great day too !

Hi Alex,

 

I let you watch my project on the Gallery community :

 

https://gallery.autodesk.com/recap/projects/patio-essec

 

However, you just have panoramics photos.

 

I can't send you the global project ...

 

Great day too !

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jjb
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jjb
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I also currently use the FARO Focus x130, but have reserved a Leica BLK360 as I will be able to cut scan times dramatically and improve the quality of the image capture AND register the scans in real-time on an iPad Pro in the field.  Plus, the BLK360 is $16k...can't wait for them to be available (hopefully at the end of this month - June 2017).

 

Jeremy J. Bauer, Ph.D.

Bauer Forensics, LLC

https://www.bauerforensics.com

I also currently use the FARO Focus x130, but have reserved a Leica BLK360 as I will be able to cut scan times dramatically and improve the quality of the image capture AND register the scans in real-time on an iPad Pro in the field.  Plus, the BLK360 is $16k...can't wait for them to be available (hopefully at the end of this month - June 2017).

 

Jeremy J. Bauer, Ph.D.

Bauer Forensics, LLC

https://www.bauerforensics.com

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Message 10 of 11
amorap
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Hello from Spain.

I am a happy owner of a Faro Focus X130, for me is the perfect tool.

The range of the Leica BLK360 (60-70 m) is very short compared to the Focus X130 (120-130 m).
I Think that the new leica is aimed to interior scans only.

Dont forget the second hand market. There is a lot of "old" equipments like Trimble TX5, Faro Foscus S series and more that not are the cutting edge but can done a decent job for almost half of the price of a new unit.


Regards.

 

Augusto Mora
Architect & teacher of Building Projects at CPIFP Pirámide. Huesca (Spain).
Revit 2014 certified profesional.

Hello from Spain.

I am a happy owner of a Faro Focus X130, for me is the perfect tool.

The range of the Leica BLK360 (60-70 m) is very short compared to the Focus X130 (120-130 m).
I Think that the new leica is aimed to interior scans only.

Dont forget the second hand market. There is a lot of "old" equipments like Trimble TX5, Faro Foscus S series and more that not are the cutting edge but can done a decent job for almost half of the price of a new unit.


Regards.

 

Augusto Mora
Architect & teacher of Building Projects at CPIFP Pirámide. Huesca (Spain).
Revit 2014 certified profesional.
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jjb
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jjb
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Hello,

 

Something I learned while researching the scanners is that FARO and Leica do not report their ranges based on the same metric.  The FARO Focus x130 has a range of "0.6 m - 130 m indoor or outdoor with upright incidence to a 90% reflective surface."  90% reflectivity is the same as 90% "albedo".

 

According to the Leica site, "Based on our many years experience in laser scanning, we spec'd the BLK360 to work in the range from 60cm out to 60meters (2' - 200')...Our specification is based on an "albedo" of 78%, something like a light colored interior wall."

 

The Leica reps told me (I hope they are correct), that the BLK360 has a range equivalent to the FARO S150

(http://www.iqservices.eu/project/files/pages/537/faro-focus3d-s150-iqservices.eu.pdf)

 

SUMMARY: The Leica spec is based on something LESS reflective than the FARO spec, therefore one cannot just look at the maximum ranges and make a comparison.  That said, I'm still very much learning here, but have looked at the raw data from a BLK360 (an outdoor scan) and know it will perform along the lines of the FARO x130 I have been using that last few years. 

Hello,

 

Something I learned while researching the scanners is that FARO and Leica do not report their ranges based on the same metric.  The FARO Focus x130 has a range of "0.6 m - 130 m indoor or outdoor with upright incidence to a 90% reflective surface."  90% reflectivity is the same as 90% "albedo".

 

According to the Leica site, "Based on our many years experience in laser scanning, we spec'd the BLK360 to work in the range from 60cm out to 60meters (2' - 200')...Our specification is based on an "albedo" of 78%, something like a light colored interior wall."

 

The Leica reps told me (I hope they are correct), that the BLK360 has a range equivalent to the FARO S150

(http://www.iqservices.eu/project/files/pages/537/faro-focus3d-s150-iqservices.eu.pdf)

 

SUMMARY: The Leica spec is based on something LESS reflective than the FARO spec, therefore one cannot just look at the maximum ranges and make a comparison.  That said, I'm still very much learning here, but have looked at the raw data from a BLK360 (an outdoor scan) and know it will perform along the lines of the FARO x130 I have been using that last few years. 

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