Getting E5004 Error When i increase the mesh size

[AAlhnaity]

I am trying to reduce the number of element by increasing mesh size in order to  reduce loading time and switching the results, because i have a big geometry 8m Element. Could anybody help me with this?. Dose this mean by increasing the mesh size the non positive will be defined in the global matrix.

[AAlhnaity]

I am trying to reduce the number of element by increasing mesh size in order to  reduce loading time and switching the results, because i have a big geometry 8m Element. Could anybody help me with this?. Dose this mean by increasing the mesh size the non positive will be defined in the global matrix.

[John_Holtz · Accepted solution]

Hi @AAlhnaity 

I think your mesh is too large relative to some feature in your model, and therefore the elements are distorted. Distorted elements can create E5004 errors.

I suggest that you right-click on "Mesh Model > Check Quality for Mesh". Then check how many elements have a Jacobian value less than 0.05. Those elements could be causing the problem. Also check for G30xx warnings that indicate the elements are distorted. 

Please see this article for some steps: How to understand geometry warnings (G30xx) in Nastran analysis.

[John_Holtz · Accepted solution]

Hi @AAlhnaity 

I think your mesh is too large relative to some feature in your model, and therefore the elements are distorted. Distorted elements can create E5004 errors.

I suggest that you right-click on "Mesh Model > Check Quality for Mesh". Then check how many elements have a Jacobian value less than 0.05. Those elements could be causing the problem. Also check for G30xx warnings that indicate the elements are distorted. 

Please see this article for some steps: How to understand geometry warnings (G30xx) in Nastran analysis.

[AAlhnaity · Accepted solution]

Thank you John 

A such powerful feature to check mesh quietly.  Now the only problem that I have is the simulation's time is about one hour and tow hours waiting the results. It is really annoys me and take much time. Could you please tell me any recommendation to speed up loading the results after the simulation is done apart of (set the actual deformation, free edge ..etc..). When i use probes and section view it takes more than the usual and some times it crushes. 

[AAlhnaity · Accepted solution]

Thank you John 

A such powerful feature to check mesh quietly.  Now the only problem that I have is the simulation's time is about one hour and tow hours waiting the results. It is really annoys me and take much time. Could you please tell me any recommendation to speed up loading the results after the simulation is done apart of (set the actual deformation, free edge ..etc..). When i use probes and section view it takes more than the usual and some times it crushes. 

[AAlhnaity · Accepted solution]

Good Morning John 

As result i have a problem in the time when i load the results and switch between them, do you think if i export the Nas file to Nastran Editor, the switching between the results would be faster. I tried to do that but it says the parameter is incorrect. Any idea please 

Regards 

[AAlhnaity · Accepted solution]

Good Morning John 

As result i have a problem in the time when i load the results and switch between them, do you think if i export the Nas file to Nastran Editor, the switching between the results would be faster. I tried to do that but it says the parameter is incorrect. Any idea please 

Regards 

[John_Holtz · Accepted solution]

Hi @AAlhnaity 

I have heard that the Nastran Editor is faster at showing the results than Inventor Nastran. I do not have any comparisons, so it will be interesting to hear your experience.

Since you already have results, you do not need to "export the Nas file"; the Nastran file (.nas) was created when you ran the analysis and still exists.

As for the message about "the parameter is incorrect", you would need to clarify what the message is, when it occurs, and what happens afterwards. I suspect it is referring to one of the Parameters that is set in either the nastran.ini file or in the model (the second branch from the end of the Inventor Nastran modeling tree). Those should only affect the actual solving which you are not doing because you already have results. All you are doing is opening the file in the Nastran Editor, then loading and viewing the results. The solver parameters have nothing to do with that.

[John_Holtz · Accepted solution]

Hi @AAlhnaity 

I have heard that the Nastran Editor is faster at showing the results than Inventor Nastran. I do not have any comparisons, so it will be interesting to hear your experience.

Since you already have results, you do not need to "export the Nas file"; the Nastran file (.nas) was created when you ran the analysis and still exists.

As for the message about "the parameter is incorrect", you would need to clarify what the message is, when it occurs, and what happens afterwards. I suspect it is referring to one of the Parameters that is set in either the nastran.ini file or in the model (the second branch from the end of the Inventor Nastran modeling tree). Those should only affect the actual solving which you are not doing because you already have results. All you are doing is opening the file in the Nastran Editor, then loading and viewing the results. The solver parameters have nothing to do with that.

[AAlhnaity · Accepted solution]

Hi John

Investigating the results and switching between displacement and stresses and set up the maximum legend in Nastran Cad takes really more than hour. I tried yesterday to visualize the results on Nastran Editor it is really much faster and i can switch between the results within maximum 2-3 min.  Yes Nas file already being generated once run the simulation.

Kindest Regards 

[AAlhnaity · Accepted solution]

Hi John

Investigating the results and switching between displacement and stresses and set up the maximum legend in Nastran Cad takes really more than hour. I tried yesterday to visualize the results on Nastran Editor it is really much faster and i can switch between the results within maximum 2-3 min.  Yes Nas file already being generated once run the simulation.

Kindest Regards