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Straighten a hose

Straighten a hose

I use routed systems on a daily basis, 80% of the time I use bent tube routes, these are then CNC bent using the YBC data that is easily exported. Hose routes are a different story. it would be great to have a straighten option in the view placement dialogue box, true hose length and the offset of any elbow fittings or porting can be properly documented.

 

 

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barry_ashcroft
Contributor

I have same problem when showing cable or a rubber object with 2 states (bent over and straight)

mcgyvr
Consultant

I would LOVE this functionality for Cable/Harnesses too.. 

I've been duplicating a lot of my cables to recreate them in a "straight" state for the drawings and even for use in view reps in the assembly.

stuartmp
Advocate

I don't use tube or Pipe, but this is a great Idea, how can you create a meaningful drawing for tube or hose without a feature like you suggest.

Awesome.

lesmfunk
Collaborator

I would say this is just for visual purposes since Inventor already calculates hose length. BUT, fitting orientation is the issue here. We put our orientation (degrees rotation) in a table and the vendor still gets it wrong!! So now we try to avoid having two bent fitting ends on the same hose.

 

In your example with the relief port, the orientation is not that critical. Show a hose with two bent ends. Then you have an problem. Great idea!!

 

Next idea: Fluid Schematics...

paul
Advocate
I think we should be able to flatten a swept profile after selecting the normal to face. Hope autodesk soon hears this.
Anonymous
Not applicable

I agree with jasonm, I work in the similar field and use just as much.

 

It would be great if there were a "straightening option", after creating a bent tube/pipe using sweep, which will calculate and straighten it to what should be your cut length...auto calculate depending on the input we supply (material, tube/pipe diameter, wall thickness, bend radius and angle which then calculates and takes material stretching into account).

danmachen
Advocate

Would love to see this feature!!! 

 

It would be so useful in cable and harness and also hose routing. 

 

To have the 3D representation in a drawing doesn't offer much to the manufacturer.

 

It means you have to create vastly complicated modelling environment to compute the straight hose and also to work out the angle at which two hose connections should be to one another to take into consideration the 'twisting' of the hose in its installation.

DRoam
Mentor
chris
Advisor

It sure would be nice to give us the ability to not only route hoses but to show a "straight" version of the routed hose for drawings... sort of how/like sheet metal parts allow both bent and flat options. I suppose the same could go for any part that is "bent" as well... i.e. (Channel, Angle, Pipe, Tubing, etc)

DRoam
Mentor

Hi @chris, here's a duplicate idea (already has 120 votes): Straighten a hose. Consider voting for it as well (and do a quick search before creating a new idea) Smiley Happy Thanks!

 

chris
Advisor

well, I voted your's up, but with 121 votes... geez.. how many votes does it take to get something added, lol

DRoam
Mentor

Weeelll, that's probably the most popular question on the IdeaStation and also the most loaded one... Smiley Wink

 

Best way I can answer that is with this quote from the guidelines: "All ideas are reviewed for member interest, complexity, alignment with our product vision and prioritization against other projects. Some ideas take longer than others, and some ideas will not be possible within the scope of what we want to accomplish in the next year or so."

 

In my experience, Autodesk's "product vision" is the most dominant factor there. It's always seemed somewhat random to me which enhancements Autodesk pulls out of the hat with each update/release. But I have to imagine that if they choose to prioritize certain features and dedicate resources (i.e. people, time and money) to them, then there's a considerable portion users that really need that feature (even if I haven't seen or heard them here in the IdeaStation).

 

That said, it's also obvious to me that Autodesk sees and acknowledges all Ideas. They generally seem to grant special attention to the top 20 or so (which you can see here), even if they don't fit in a current product vision. So based on that criteria, the current threshold is about 250 votes to get on the "most wanted" list. But I've seen many ideas with less than 10 votes get accepted and implemented. So in the end it really depends on what Autodesk decides is a priority.

 

Again, other than the quote from Autodesk, this is all based on my own observations and speculation. But hopefully it helps give you an idea of what you can expect. Short answer: an idea can sit in the "Accepted" status indefinitely until it meets Autodesk's criteria for prioritization, which are largely a mystery but can be influenced by votes and/or user need (as expressed through comments).

 

Clear as mud? Smiley Wink

 

PACDrafting
Collaborator

This would be an extremely useful function. We have a number of crane companies that would really benefit from this. Currently most of them are quite annoyed this has not been implemented yet.

pcoleman
Enthusiast

 125 Votes and counting

Anonymous
Not applicable

Yes this function would be very welcome. It is a must.


@Anonymous wrote:

I use routed systems on a daily basis, 80% of the time I use bent tube routes, these are then CNC bent using the YBC data that is easily exported. Hose routes are a different story. it would be great to have a straighten option in the view placement dialogue box, true hose length and the offset of any elbow fittings or porting can be properly documented.

 

 

straighten



@Anonymous wrote:

I use routed systems on a daily basis, 80% of the time I use bent tube routes, these are then CNC bent using the YBC data that is easily exported. Hose routes are a different story. it would be great to have a straighten option in the view placement dialogue box, true hose length and the offset of any elbow fittings or porting can be properly documented.

 

 

straighten


 

petri.k
Enthusiast

This should be added to Inventor and fast. I would love to have this function and this feature is lacking. Creo has it, Solidworks has it...

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