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Reorder Work Features and Component Patterns in Assembly browser
I can not drag/reorder Work Features and Component Patterns in the assembly browser. I see no reason why this is not possible. Please fix this, thank you.
Yet another jaw dropping limitation in Inventor. It is obvious to even a relatively new user that folders and reordering in the features section of the browser are very important for managing complexity.
As a long time software developer it seems to me Autodesk refuses to sit in the chair of the user and understand the importance of aspects that while not essential (an incomprehensible array of features does get the design done), nevertheless have a huge impact on creating and comprehending the design.
The inventor software is nothing more than a big array of zeros and ones in a very precise order. Imagine writing software where the tool requires you to manually shuffle a long string of zeros and ones into the correct length and permutation. Theoretically possible, but definitely impossible...
This is such a joke. Not only does this restriction prevent your assembly from being clean and readable since you can't use folders effectively, it also prevents you from demoting component patterns to existing assemblies.
"Future consideration" means it's less along the path than "accepted", right? That's fantastic, in 4 years it became even less plausible to remove this infuriating problem from the software.
If there is a fundamental reason they cannot be reordered (see steven.dennis commnet above) then can an additional view mode be created? Currently (in v2017) there are two view modes in the assembly browser: "Assembly View" and "Modeling View". Why not create a new view mode in the browser where parts, folders, patterns, work geometry, etc. can be moved around at will in a tree view? It could be called "Organized View" or "Custom View".
Hopefully this suggestion may help move this idea along. I would welcome the ability to reorder component patterns in the assembly tree, regardless if they are in a folder or not. It has been so frustrating over the years to be able to move parts around the patterns in the tree, but be able to move the patterns past each other to keep things organized. Inventor team has made some great improvements since IV6 when I started after learning 3D modeling on the other SoftWare. I think the UI of Inventor is superior at this point, so I am holding on to hope this idea moves up the list.
I tried exactly that, having a "customer view" that had no compute semantics in it and allowed you to do whatever you wanted to the nodes...
This attempt of mine failed miserably for a variety of reasons. Keep the ideas coming and we understand the frustration this limitation gives you and others but I just wanted to let you know that I did personally try this solution in the recent past.
+1; this is a frightning limitation if the software is intended for use by professionals in industry rather than just hobby use where mesy assemblies might be acceptable.
No issues with this in Creo or SW, it might be okay to live without in basic assemblies but for large assemblies with several patterns it becomes a mess in very short order.
I've only been using inventor for 2 weeks but it seems like every day I come across some other staggering limitation.
I will always say the same for this software, it's extremely good but just not in the most important and simply things, it fails a lot in the basic functions.
@Andrew2803, as the title says, this is regarding the Assembly browser, not the Part browser. Unlike in Parts, the order in the Assembly browser has no effect on the model, so there's no logical reason for the reorder restrictions like there is in Parts. There's extensive discussion regarding this here. According to Autodesk devs it's technically challenging to fix due to some deep, hard-coded aspects of the browser/assembly solve process. But there's no logical barrier from a high-level perspective. Just a programming one.
I struggle with these same issues. However I want to share with you all a way to reorder component patterns (definitely not the ideal fix, as it can be somewhat time consuming, but it's a decent workaround for now).
1. Select the Pattern Component command
2. Select components in the order you would prefer to see them in the model tree
3. Create the pattern
4. Delete the newly created pattern
Your components will now be in your preferred order at the bottom of your model tree. Now, like normal, drag and drop the rest of your non-patterned components where you want them and voila, your component patterns are in the desired order and your model tree organized. I hope this proves to be as helpful for you as it has been for me!
@mgreenmachine Neat little trick there! Kind of silly that your method will re-organize the Part order in an Assembly but we can't do it on our own. I've notice that with your Pattern method, it reverses the order of selection (for me anyway).
I did find my patterns in reverse order of choosing.
It allowed me to move work features to the top. They were not accepted in the pattern, but the pattern was created at the bottom of the browser. It stayed on top when the pattern was deleted.
Maybe this workaround will give insight into improving browser behavior.
I suspect the reason your components are in reverse order may be due to what order in which they were selected (for instance, if you select the bottom-most pattern, hold down the Shift key, and then select the top-most pattern, this would reorder them in reverse order). However, I have not myself experienced the reversing that you have described, so I really cannot say.
Another note: Reordering Component Patterns is now possible with a simple click and drag in Inventor 2022. I recommend updating, as I have done, thus circumventing this issue altogether. Cheers!
Nice to know they have taken care of the issue. With having to update Vault being required we end up skipping years.
Because of @bcampbell3SR6X comment,I selected them in the order I wanted them; starting with the work feature, then patterns 1,2,3.
When that gave me reverse order I did it again picking patterns 3,2,1. It then got them in the order I wanted, same as I started, but with the work feature (plane) before them.
