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Model States and IPN

Model States and IPN

Since IPN are needed for exploded assembly drawings. To have the ability to change the model state in the IPN representation would be great. Especially since any old IPN files that are upgraded, default to the master model state. I don't want it to default to the master model state without the ability to change to a different model state. 

24 Comments
Maciej_Mroczek
Contributor

In the nut shell:

Could you please also enable changing model states for scenes.

It will help a lot if you make for example a step by step assembly manual for the client and want to update the manual.

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Version for those who have more time than tasks:

It was mentioned in old idea, which gathered quite nice support.

In those times, it was still called level of detail instead of model state.

Associative Level of Detail in IPN presentation and view linked with LoD. - Autodesk Community

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As you can see below,  nothing changed except the name,

we still can't change model state for scenes.

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Cody.Redding
Advocate

I completely agree with you, and have upvoted your idea.  

 

In the mean time, I have discovered a work-around.  it requires planning ahead, and you cannot change the LOD once the scene is created.  

 

When selecting the assembly to make a scene, select "options" and choose the LOD you want.  Then the scene will only reference that LOD.  Helpful, but if you need to change your LOD after, you are out of luck.  

 

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mickhall64
Explorer

The added functionality should also be able to use multiple scenes to drive on BOM on a drawing. It would also be more straightforward if the exploded views were saved instances in the assembly instead of having to make separate IPN's. What's almost impossible to do in Inventor (Multiple exploded views on one drawing reporting to a single BOM) can be completed in 5 minutes with Solid Works. 

Cody.Redding
Advocate

@mickhall64 You can create multiple scenes in a single IPN.  Inventor does not use the IPN to drive the BOM, but rather the view representation in the assembly. 

 

If you have more questions, feel free to make a thread in the Inventor Forum, rather than Ideas. 

rob.prewitt
Observer

The lack of availability in presentations carries over into the drawing environment, where you have manually manipulate assemblies (turning on/off visibility of parts/sub-assy's and such) to show parts as desired.

I am not sure how long "Voting" for desired changes/features has been around, but i only stumbled upon it a day or two ago.  I am hoping it is relatively new, for I believe the 29 votes currently in for this item extremely low.  Maybe most users just don't know it is available.

Mtimmis-Personal
Contributor
I really wish this would be added to Inventor, the ability to switch Representations after you have already created an exploded view would be really valuable. Otherwise if you later decide to create a LOD for example and want to the IPN to reflect this visually, you need to completely rebuild.
Yijiang.Cai
Autodesk

@jesscadd many thanks for you sharing the idea with us! When editing scene of IPN, LOD or model state can't be changed, which is a legacy behavior. We migrate the legacy IPN with LOD selected to Inventor 2022, the LOD will be migrated to model state which is used for IPN, and it works with my testing. There is only one situation, and LOD "Suppress All CC parts" used for IPN. This will be switched to master model state when migrating to Inventor 2022. In Inventor 2022, the "Suppress All CC Parts" LOD will be migrated to design view "Hide all CC parts". 

You could check it. 

 

Thanks,
River

jesscadd
Advocate

Thank you for the response. I understand you are matching legacy behavior. But Model States is a new feature, allow the user to have better functionality and not hamstring it with old processes. To be able to use the Model States with existing IPN files requires the existing scenes to be deleted and rebuilt from scratch. That is huge roadblock for existing designs as well as copying existing designs.

Yijiang.Cai
Autodesk

@jesscadd, I suppose this is the enhancement request on model states, and got your idea. Thanks!

ElienV
Explorer

Where can we vote for this idea to be implemented? Or can it already be done by now? 

'Switch to a certain model state in an ipn-file'?

jesscadd
Advocate

You should be able to click the vote button at the top.

Yijiang.Cai
Autodesk
Status changed to: Under Review

Many thanks for posting the idea to us, and tracked as [INVGEN-61758].

dan_szymanski
Autodesk
Status changed to: Accepted
 
Maciej_Mroczek
Contributor

In the nut shell:

Could you please also enable changing model states for scenes.

It will help a lot if you make for example a step by step assembly manual for the client and want to update the manual.

 

Version for those who have more time than tasks:

It was mentioned in old idea, which gathered quite nice support.

In those times, it was still called level of detail instead of model state.

Associative Level of Detail in IPN presentation and view linked with LoD. - Autodesk Community

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There is also small error in the picture. 

I no longer had the ability to edit this idea when I noticed it.

It should be like this:

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As you can see below,  nothing changed except the name,

we still can't change model state for scenes.

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Yijiang.Cai
Autodesk
Status changed to: Future Consideration
 
Maciej_Mroczek
Contributor

Thank you from the bottom of my heart on behalf of myself and everyone creating assembly instructions for clients (similar to those from Ikea or Lego).

B_MARPET
Contributor

PLEASE AUTODESK,

ALLOW THE HUMBLE DRAFTERS THAT USE YOUR PRODUCT TO CHANGE THE MODEL STATE OF A SCENE IN AN .ipn.

MAYBE EVEN COPY A SCENE AND CHANGE ITS REPRESENTATION. OR EVEN COPY SOME TWEAKS TO ANOTHER SCENE.

THANKS,

US

dan_szymanski
Autodesk
Status changed to: Accepted

Accepted idea [INVGEN-61758]. Thanks!

jesscadd
Advocate

 

You showed this as accepted a year ago. And you accept it again. Is it actually going to be implemented? Which version?

jesscadd
Advocate

Dan Szymanski

 

You accepted this over a year ago. And now you accept it again? Is it going to get implemented? When/what version?

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