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Display component origin planes on mouseover when holding CTRL-button
I prefer to create constraints on the origin planes of components.
I think it would be a great enhancement if the origin planes of a component will become temporarily visible and selectable by mouseover the component in combination with (for example) the CTRL-key.
Steve, I purchased the app. It does work and is a great improvement over what is available in Inventor. However, I would like to be able the select parts/assemblies in larger assemblies and have only the work features associated with the selected items visible.
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It would be great to have a right click option in the browser tree to turn on all work features with a specific part or assembly rather than trying to expand and collapse a node in the browser to find what you want and turn it on and off all the time.
Good improvement suggestion and thanks for the feedback!
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My thoughts on what could be a simple solution to the origin plane (and axis) visibility...
1)Entering the constraint command with nothing selected works as it currently does.
2)If one, or several parts are highlighted (selected) prior to entering the constraint command, the origin planes of those parts are automatically toggled visible, and remain on until the constraint dialog is closed.
Often when I go to edit a part, depending on the purpose of the edit for production and the drawing requirements, I'll check where Origin was modelled at for the purpose of retaining my origin location at a square edge or a set of datums.
What this means, is that after opening a part, I typically browse over Origin in the tree, expand it, then run my mouse across all three origin planes to quickly see where the glowing planes appear before I begin my edits.
Example: Part is a 10x20x30mm rectangle. The XY axis is on a 10x20 plane. I have a need to make the part 32mm instead of 30mm for a process. Both 10x20 faces have symmetrical features in it. For simplicity, I may decide to do a direct edit moving all faces and features on one of these faces by 2mm; to keep origin in a clean location, I need to know where it is.
This idea is for the implementation of two (both) new Inventor features: 1: On mouseover of an Origin folder in the model tree, display the three origin planes as if they were all moused over individually.
2: Allow assigning a keyboard shortcut to toggle the visibility of origin planes. "Toggle Origin Plane Visibility"
2.1: In a part, one press makes all origin planes visible, and if all are visible, one press removes visibility.
2.2: In an assembly, have the exact same command do this for the assembly origin planes.
2.2.1: If a part is selected in an assembly, toggle the visibility of that part's origin planes in the assembly instead.
With Inventor I use a Logitech G600 mouse (gaming mouse) which has the possibility for 60 shortcuts, if I'm not mistaken - too many I think, I only use about 30 of them. It would be downright awful for me to go back to not having this mouse. My most used commands happen at a press of a button (Enter/Modify Sketch, Line, Circle, Rectangle, Dimension etc. Then in Assembly mode: Constraint, Join, View/Hide, Add Part, Isolate, Save, Close. In Drawing: Baloons, Notes, Weld Marks etc.) You can create most any shortcut you like.
But I don't have this one, and it's a real pity!! I have to:
- right click on Part (I have a button shortcut for Part Priority in case the part belongs in a subassembly)
- select "Find in Browser"
- go to the tree (where the part is now highlighted)
- click on the + of the part
- click on the + of "folded Model"
- click on + of "Origin"
- finally have the planes, axes, points in view
Once I finish I have to minus everything out to avoid further confusion in the tree.....
A real annoyance I say...
Here's the mouse if someone's interested and there are other similar ones too.
I made an addin that you might like, it kind of does what you want but you have to right click and press show planes, have a look if you are interested.
For complex assemblies it´s tricky to constrain components, if you want to or you have to use originplanes.
Maybe it´s possible to add a button or checkbox to the constraintdialogbox, which allows a preselection for the required components and make there originplanes visible. After OK or Apply buttonclick, the originplanes should be invisible again.
When in the place constraints dialog. If you hold down CTRL (or other modifier key) you get "component priority selection". When clicking on a part or assembly it unhides and shows all orgin planes (and axies) for the part or assembly you mouse click. Stop holding the modifier key and you get back to the normal selections in constraints dialog. Holding CTRL + SHIFT give you Part Priority selection so you can select part inside assemblies.
When you have selected the planes you want to select and exit the "place constraints" dialog all the planes that you made visable gets hidden again.
Pressing ALT does the same thing as CTRL but this shows all user created planes and axies instead of the origin planes/axies. Holding down ALT and SHIFT lets you select parts inside assemblies (same as above)
Hi, I would definitely have use for this. I would also add : it would be great if the said planes were displayed fitting within the window. So many times I have to zoom out to make sure I am actually selecting the correct plane because there is no visible indication of what it is.
I always find myself clicking through the model browser. Looking for the right component inside some assembly, hovering over the parts until I find the correct one that gets highlighted. Having parts named after number series makes it even harder to pinpoint the correct part in an assembly or main assembly.
I think I understand what you meant. Basically all planes should be the same size as the assembly takes up? So if the footprint of the assembly is 1x1x1 meters. All planes should span 1x1 meters. That way you dont have tiny, tiny origin planes in the middle that you have to zoom in on to select.
Something that would also be nice would to have origin planes have a colored line along the side of each axis. So that XY had a RED line along the X direction and Y had a green one along Y etc. They could also be a gradient towards the middle. Starting Red and Green lines and fading towards where the lines would meet.
This is a suggestion without fading. I think color coding like this increase the visual que's and increase your efficiency.
While at it. Please color code the axis XYZ RGB and same in sketch mode!!!
@Brodholm: Basically I would like the component's planes to fully appear within the assembly window, irrespective of the zoom level. In my example below the YZ plane is highlighted...yet unless I check the UCS/triad I don't know if I have selected the plane I really wanted.
As you said the planes should appear big enough that they are usable as well
Of course there would be cases where it is not possible, but I think it would be a noticeable improvement in a lot of cases
I do like your other suggestions too, they would definitely provide more visual cues
It would be very helpful if, when executing a function in which I can select origin planes, I can select them from a list / dropdown by right-clicking. This would save me a lot of scrolling in the tree to first select an element of a component, which hangs at the bottom of the tree, and then the origin level, which hangs at the top of the tree.
