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2023 Home Screen

2023 Home Screen

Restore the 2022 version Home Screen in 2023, or else allow the option to enable the previous or "Legacy" functionality.

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INVOEM2023DesktopSU-SIM
Community Visitor

Hi Stephen, on the other side, what specifically we can do to make you love the 2023 Home Screen? We do have several known gaps that the team is actively working on so I'd like to validate if that will help you. Thanks for your feedback.

wgraham
Advocate

@INVOEM2023DesktopSU-SIM 

 

Please don't waste anymore resources on the 2023 Home Screen.  There are far too many real problems that need solved to waste time on superficial changes like the home screen.  Nearly everyone I know immediately turns the home screen off in application options immediately after installing the new version.  When a colleague demoed the new home screen to me all I saw was increased mouse clicks to get where I needed.

b.mccarthy
Collaborator

I would "love" the 2023 home screen, if I had the option to switch to the 2022 version as soon as it displays. I have come to rely on the 2022 functionality, as it is more efficient for my workflow. Some capabilities I relied upon, others not so much:

 

The "New..." section I rarely use.

 

The "Projects/Shortcuts/File Details" I use a lot, primarily to access "File Details" (it would be nice to be able to modify this list to display different/additional information). "Shortcuts" are a handy tool as well. "Projects" I use rarely.

 

Under "Recent Documents", I only use the filters to set "All Recent Documents" to display, otherwise it stays collapsed. Having the pinned documents in its own section is beneficial, since these are not used that often. The glyphs that display on the thumbnails are more useful than the 2023 version.

 

The 2023 home screen just appears to have not been thought out that well. I understand the desire to have a "universal look" with Autodesk offerings, however, each package is its own animal, Inventor included. This version increases my workflow, not enhance it.

 

Autodesk can do much to elevate customer satisfaction by giving users options, instead of the "This is what you get. Live with it.." approach. 

FrodoZhou
Autodesk

Hi,

Sounds like you're missing these features on Home screen, can you please help rank these from your perspective and add a bit of clarification on why you rank it in a certain way if you can? That will help us better understand your needs. In addition, I also have some follow-up questions below for each of them.

 

  • File Details
    • Location, File Type, and Date Modified are available in 2023, what're the most important properties to you that are still missing?
  • File Shortcuts
    • How do you use this typically?
  • Separate pinned documents section
    • Is this specifically for thumbnail view?
  • The glyphs that display on the thumbnails
    • Just to make sure, do you mean those menus such as remove from the list, open? They're available through right clicks in 2023.

Thanks for your feedback.

 

Frodo

pcrawley
Advisor

I love the new Home screen, but as mentioned earlier by @INVOEM2023DesktopSU-SIM - there are some things missing.

 

  1. Icon/text size - the thumbnails and text lists are "big".  A more compact layout would allow for the "New" file functions (which I used because I didn't rename my templates, but it would be nice to add custom templates there, too) and a separate pinned-file area.
  2. File properties:  It would be useful to have a Vault-like grid to display user-selected iProperties.  Anything less would lead to arguments about which properties are important, and every user will have a different opinion.  This would be particularly useful in systems where files names are complex alpha-numeric sequences.
  3. File Shortcuts - In 2022, I often used "Open Folder Location". Missing in 2023.
  4. The "Close" Home screen function is missing.  Oddly, you can't close (or reopen) the Home screen without restarting Inventor 2023.  When tiling multiple open documents, the Home Screen is treated as a separate window (as it was in 2022) - but you could close it in 2022 and re-tile the screen to fill the space with work.  See below for screen tiling - then the missing "Close" option for "Home".
    home.jpg

John_Holtz
Autodesk Support

I second @pcrawley 's suggestion that "Open/Explore containing folder" is missing in 2023. I use "Explore containing folder" often. (I do not know what "Open containing folder" does. It used to crash my Inventor a few releases ago, so I have not tried it recently. When I try it in 2022 now, it shows a "File Open Dialog", asks me to select a file, and then opens that model in Inventor. That does not seem like what an "Open containing folder" should do. Maybe it means "let me choose another file that happens to be in the same folder as this model". That makes sense now.)

 

John

pcrawley
Advisor

Thanks @John_Holtz (Nastran 2023 is the answer to your forum signature.  And it looks like you read the Autodesk--edited-edition of Chinese Philosopy 😉)

 

Just in case anyone else wants (needs) the "Explore Containing Folder" functionality, have a look at this post:

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/explore-containing-folder-from-2023-home-tab/m-p/11088...

 

"Open Containing Folder" used to bring up Inventor's File > Open dialogue at the folder location of the selected component.  I used it often, but I might need to practice my iLogic skills a bit more to work how to create an equivalent rule.

 

Roll on the next update @INVOEM2023DesktopSU-SIM 

FrodoZhou
Autodesk

Hi @pcrawley ,

Just some quick comments on your input.

  1. Icon/text size - would you mind sharing a draft of what better visual looks like? You just visualize the ideas so it does not have to be perfect.
  2. File properties:  this is in our road map, if things go smoothly you might see it in a future version.
  3. File Shortcuts - do you need both "Open Folder Location" and "Explore Containing Folder" or just one of them and why? One prompts the File open dialog, and the other one prompts Windows explorer.
  4. The "Close" Home screen function is missing - in case you turned Home off you can bring it back by clicking the Home button on the QAT bar (the very top of the main frame). If you already have Home turned on is there anything will make you switch its on/off status during an Inventor session?

Thanks for your feedback.

 

Frodo

pcrawley
Advisor

Hi @FrodoZhou 

 

  1. From Inventor 2022, we had Tiles, Large, Small, and List:
    2022-04-07_13-52-13.jpg

    We also had "Search".

    Looking at the "List" option, the table was formatted with alternate line shading and less padding around the text so we had more lines visible:

    2022-04-07_13-47-38.jpg
    I like the grid (lines between cells) in 2023, and it looks clean.  But alternate shading is (in my opinion) easier to read - especially since everything in the row relates to one file.
  2. File properties: Fantastic - can't wait!

  3. File Shortcuts: @John_Holtz gave a great example in an earlier post on this thread.  I use them often for checking SAT and DXF files used for our manufacturing tools.  I have worked around both missing items with iLogic, but it would be nice to have back the functionality that 2023's Home screen removed.

  4. Home screen - I missed the Home shortcut on the QAT, thank you!  I gave my reasons for turning it off (and back on) in the earlier post, but to keep things all in one place:

    When tiling multiple open documents, the Home Screen is treated as a separate window (as it was in 2022) - but you could close it in 2022 and re-tile the screen to fill the space with work.  See below for screen tiling - then the missing "Close" option for "Home".
    home.jpg


    ...and in writing all that, I have just discovered that if I minimise the Home screen, then tile, I get what I'm looking for!  Duh!  (I'm sure that's new behaviour?!)

FrodoZhou
Autodesk

Hi Peter,

 

Thanks for the clarifications. I will log the Open/Explore containing folder request into our backlog and get it tracked. We will look into how to exclude App Home from window arrangement, hopefully with that, you will no longer need to switch Home back and force during a session?

 

I'll forward your suggestion about alternate shading to our designers for further investigation, thanks for the picture.

 

Frodo

b.graaf
Advocate

@wgraham: speak for yourself! I do like the homescreen and I am using it in my daily workflows!

 

But I am also missing some 2022 functionality.

  • Where is the "search my home"  function to find files in the recently opened list?
  • The option "sort by recently opened" seems to be gone, which was the default option in 2022 I think?
  • I did like more the way the templates were presented in 2022 my home, now I have to open the dropdown list all the time to select the right template.
FrodoZhou
Autodesk

Hi Branko,

 

Thank you for letting us know you like the home screen, please keep the feedback in while you're using it.

 

About your questions when comparing with Inventor 2022

  • Search recent files - this is scheduled for an incremental update
  • Sort by recently opened - this is scheduled for an incremental update
  • Default file template access - understood in 2022 it is one less click to access those. As an alternative, do you know you can add the Part/Assembly commands to a ribbon panel through the Tools->Customize workflow? In that way you will have access to those commands directly that you need.

 

Thanks,

 

Frodo

 

 

b.mccarthy
Collaborator

One other minor item I noticed is the incongruity between the Home Screen behaviour and standard Windoze.

 

In Windoze, we have the option to use a single-click or double-click to open a file. The single-click setting changes the cursor to a hand when hovered over a file (Everyone has their preference here). On the Home Screen, this behaviour is not respected. With single-click enabled, and the cursor hovers over the lower text section area, the cursor stays as a pointer, or whatever your system is set to.  A double-click will open the file:

 

2022-04-14 481.jpg

 

When the cursor is moved to the graphic, it changes to a hand, however, a double-click is still needed to open the file:

 

2022-04-14 482.jpg

 

A bit confusing, if you are expecting the Home Screen to respect the Windoze settings...

SEC_CAD
Collaborator

Please bring back the split between pinned and unpinned items. I share my screen on Zoom with product managers. I want them to see all of the finished models without the clutter of individual parts or unfinished (unpinned) assemblies.

 

Please restore "Open file location". I use this to check that the file I am opening is the correct one because names and thumbnails can be the same.

 

Please make the "Open" and "New" buttons look like buttons (not greyed out fields).

 

It wasn't obvious to me that the first combo under "Inventor 2023" was the project name. Can you make this more obvious. I hate combo boxes. What happens when the list becomes large. I preferred switching between projects the 2022 way.

 

[P.S. BUG - If I select a different project from the combo box while files are open Inventor correctly says that I cannot change projects because files are open BUT the combo box now shows the newly selected project name which now does not match the active project since the Recent area still shows files from my original project. Please dump the combo-box]

 

Now that you have more screen space can you incorporate the project settings, rather than have them open in a separate dialogue.

SEC_CAD
Collaborator

When switching between the Home page and model space can you make the left pane consistent so that the Home and Model tabs at the bottom don't keep jumping around.

 

Home tab active:

SEC_CAD_0-1650587078068.png

 

Part tab active: (Tabs jump to the right)

SEC_CAD_1-1650587114686.png

 

tobias
Collaborator

1. Have iProperties in the submenu of the files:

tobias_0-1650974110022.png

 

2. Have "open" as priority instead of "open from vault", or one which is last used.

tobias_1-1650974299971.png

 

 

PrismaVigevano
Participant

I really miss the old style Home screen 😞

 

Here you can find an image with my hints.Schermata Home 2019 hints.png

ChrisMitchell01
Community Manager

However, we're currently testing a few enhancements to the new Home screen for upcoming Inventor updates in the Inventor Feedback/Beta Community.

 

If you'd like to review/try those & provide feedback then you can apply for access using http://Autode.sk/InventorBeta

 

Thanks,
Chris

FrodoZhou
Autodesk

Hi @SEC_CAD

 

The Home tab jumping behavior is well known, unfortunately, this is a technical limitation for the Doc tab is part of the Doc view which is independent of the Browser. We have been looking into it but there are no good solutions so far, e.g. the alternative way is to keep the Browser on App Home which does not make much sense, the other possible way is to make the Browser a float control which is huge, feel free to let us know if you have ideas. Thanks.

 

Frodo

FrodoZhou
Autodesk

Hi @Anonymous,

 

The iPropterties menu is in our to-do list, feel free to check out the latest Alpha as Chris mentioned above.

 

Regarding Open versus Open from Vault, we heard from other customers that Open from Vault is preferred when the active project is Vault one, apparently, you have different preferences which is interesting. Would you mind sharing your scenarios? Among these three default options (under Vault project) which one do you prefer and why?

 

1. Open 2. Open from Vault 3. Last used

 

Thanks,

 

Frodo

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