Problem with positions in an assembly

[Anonymous]

Hi, recently I got "a challenge" from a coworker to make a flexible part in an assembly ( practically it's a hose) that would modify itself (it's sweep path) in order to match the final pozition of element. It was relativly easy, found answer here, on forum, but now I need to make  several pozitions of that final element - so here's the problem : while I'm moving that final elemnt on screen, there are no errors, but making an position and moving the company, it gives error.  Getting back to master position gives the posibility to move the component without errors.

I think that errors are caused by the fact that it's necessary to make some calculations for sweep and it's spline.

Assembly is attached below.

  P.S. I'm using Inventor 2013

[Anonymous]

Hi, recently I got "a challenge" from a coworker to make a flexible part in an assembly ( practically it's a hose) that would modify itself (it's sweep path) in order to match the final pozition of element. It was relativly easy, found answer here, on forum, but now I need to make  several pozitions of that final element - so here's the problem : while I'm moving that final elemnt on screen, there are no errors, but making an position and moving the company, it gives error.  Getting back to master position gives the posibility to move the component without errors.

I think that errors are caused by the fact that it's necessary to make some calculations for sweep and it's spline.

Assembly is attached below.

  P.S. I'm using Inventor 2013

[admaiora]

Hi Eugene,

nice idea and nice hose

This is a limit of the Adaptive geometry, it  fails with positional rep.

You can use iPart/iassemblies

[admaiora]

Hi Eugene,

nice idea and nice hose

This is a limit of the Adaptive geometry, it  fails with positional rep.

You can use iPart/iassemblies

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I could create an iHose with 2 or more desired configurations for 2 or more positions, but:

1'st - Changing position would become changing the representation view( would be some kind of cheating 🙂 )

2'nd - If I would need smth like this for a working project, the solution I'm looking for would ease me the job + less time consuption.

Also a strange thing : If I'm adding 1 constrain to free element, it becomes, sorf of, grounded. It doesen't move on unconstrained planes.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I could create an iHose with 2 or more desired configurations for 2 or more positions, but:

1'st - Changing position would become changing the representation view( would be some kind of cheating 🙂 )

2'nd - If I would need smth like this for a working project, the solution I'm looking for would ease me the job + less time consuption.

Also a strange thing : If I'm adding 1 constrain to free element, it becomes, sorf of, grounded. It doesen't move on unconstrained planes.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

I'm not too certain about all of the positional hose inquiries, but I do have something for your "1 constraint = fully constrained" issue.

I can't say that I really have an all-out solution. I've just noticed that happening from time to time when inventor is running hot (using a large amount of memory and I've noticed it tends to happen when things in the model are adaptive.

There are those on this forum who would disagree with me, but I tend to stay away from adaptivity where I can. I seem to find that it causes more problems than it fixes. But again. That's just me.

The only suggestion I could make is that if you need to move something and inventor won't let you after the first constraint, you can A) ground the part your constraining to (this should allow you to move the part with the degrees of freedom) or B) Use the Move and Rotate commands to adjust your part's location then update.

Sorry I can't be more help with the hose thing. Sounds neat but also sounds like something I would probably approach entirely differently based on my previous experiences.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

I'm not too certain about all of the positional hose inquiries, but I do have something for your "1 constraint = fully constrained" issue.

I can't say that I really have an all-out solution. I've just noticed that happening from time to time when inventor is running hot (using a large amount of memory and I've noticed it tends to happen when things in the model are adaptive.

There are those on this forum who would disagree with me, but I tend to stay away from adaptivity where I can. I seem to find that it causes more problems than it fixes. But again. That's just me.

The only suggestion I could make is that if you need to move something and inventor won't let you after the first constraint, you can A) ground the part your constraining to (this should allow you to move the part with the degrees of freedom) or B) Use the Move and Rotate commands to adjust your part's location then update.

Sorry I can't be more help with the hose thing. Sounds neat but also sounds like something I would probably approach entirely differently based on my previous experiences.