Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I have a relativly basic ipt file in 2013 that I would like to open up in 2012 on another machine. I'm wondering if there's anyway I can open it up and edit it? It's kind of crucial and I assumed I'd be able to since the part used nothing besides the rudimentary tools that have been in inventor since the beginning...

Right now, I'm getting a "Database schema...which is newer than this version".

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

I am from another state where the local community college throw the book at you, and has no lecture of any kind, and the teacher is not avalable when you have questions, cause he is playing solitaire in class, but you can ask other students, that community college however has more classes on CAD programs than here. This college that teaches the Inv and SW is the ONLY one that teaches SW here within 120 miles, I have no idea about Inv, the jobs are in SW, that I have seen, so I enrolled into the school where solidworks was taught. The rest of the schools in the area have no drafting, they basically major in giving you a BS degree with 10-17 classes not in your field so you can get a BS in something, just not your career field. The local community college, has absolutely nothing for drafting whatsoever, which I find quite odd. Universities are a few miles away and would probably require completing another degree yet, but of a longer duration. This college is the only solution.

I can tell you my inventor teacher had us draw all the parts of an assembly into one part file, and when I asked him about it, he answered my question with a question, which totally upset me. Needless to say anyone that followed his technique had to completely redraw everything. I have had 3 classes with my Soldiworks teacher and he already seems more knowledgeable, and also seems to be of a higher calibur teacher than the Inventor guy. The Inventor guy however has been using Inventor for years, but why he said to put all parts into the part file to be imported into an assembly file later, is beyond me. The only conjecture I can make, is that he's lacking in the assembly portion of Inventor, or he wanted to try a new twist that he'd never tried before. Which is exactly what we're learning this term in Inventor.

[mrattray]

It's not possible that he was trying to teach you how to use a multi body solid? That's a very common and powerful modeling technique...

[Anonymous]

Mike Rattray, you're kind of out in left field aren't you, Clearances and Tolerances are pretty close to the same term, they both deal with the equalizing of space to ensure a proper fit, so pardon me if I used the wrong word. I never said I was an expert, if I were an expert would I have enrolled into another college. I have spent 2 years in school learning drafting after 2 years of drafting in high school eighteen years ago, and 5 years in the field. I came to this forum to find answers as well. So let me communicate with those that I've been communicating.

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[mrattray]

Clearance is the distance between two mating parts. Tolerance is the amount of deviation allowed during manufacturing.

How is that the same thing?

[Anonymous]

You may have already covered this, and if you did I apologize, but is there a specific reason to learning at your current college? I'm asking because there are multiple other options for training.  You could attend a class taught by Inventor Professionals or check out some online tutorial courses.

Now in all fairness, the company I work for provides training for both Inventor and SolidWorks, so that is why I am weighing in here.  But because of the frustration you are having, I highly recommend other avenues as far as your training goes.  There are some great options out there at a reasonable price.  If you would like information about my company, I can provide it.  I'm sure others here can provide alternate training options as well.

[Anonymous]

Nope he was teaching us our first assembly of six parts, not sure what a multi-body solid is. Nah he threw us an unintentional curveball that blew up in our faces and another 4 hours remodeling everything. He goofed he told us all that the next class, after we told him what happened. It could have been helped if he weren't so arrogant in the first place when I asked him about it.

[Anonymous]

Mike, I said PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME THING, I didn't say they were the same thing, then I compared and explained how they were CLOSE TO THE SAME THING. They both deal with the realtive amount of space to ensure a proper fit. My fingers just typed the wrong word, it's a technicality.

[Anonymous]

If i was you id go to the autodesk university website and watch some of the online classes from past AU courses. Some good stuff there.

[jletcher]

More than likely he was trying to teach you multi-body solid and did not understand it himself and forgot to tell you about the button to make this work. And it is a very good tool if used right.

I would have to agree with some of the comments on here. If this teacher you have is not teaching I think I would be looking at getting my money back and finding other ways to learn. Even go as far as suing the school.....

You may be able to learn a lot more from you tube videos than your teacher it sounds like.

[Anonymous]

John this college is $210.00 per credit hour, and will help you get a job for life no matter where you live. I went back to school for Solidworks and being able to get a job for life no matter what state I live. The two colleges that I attended prior to this one, I was just a number upon leaving, I am trying to alleviate the process of locating employment. Inventor was just a requirement of the college. Since I have been laid off (Early 2010) I have seen one Inventor job open, but I've seen at least 75 Solidworks open positions, and the Inventor guy where I used to work was exstatic when we went to Soldiworks, he spoke of tools in Soldiworks that did not exist in Inventor. Solidworks is quite the time saver, and even doesn't require the multiple redrawing of adjacent views or sections. I had never thought of it before, but the teacher last night in soldiworks suggetsed becoming Solidworks certified. I think the solidworks guy at the college is going to be 3x the Inventor guy, I can tell just by the way he teaches the class. John, could you send me your contact information and pricing and I'll look it over. Thank You

[JDMather]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I mean the foundation that started your learning of SW and Inv, how long was it?

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I can't really remember back that far - but I think it was a 3-day (8hr/day) training for each program.  (back around 2001)
Started with CADKey back in 1987 and then AutoCAD around 1999.  I also teach Creo (Pro/E) self-taught on that program.

Where I work we offer several 3D classes (Inventor, SolidWorks, Creo and AutoCAD) going from begining to deep into FEA and Dynamic Simulation.  The classes are offered as regular credit 5hr/week 16 week or 2 or 3 day 8hr classes to industry folks.

At some point I will try to post some examples of how I might do your assignments (I'm still trying to procure a Sham Tickoo book).  Perhaps the best way you can learn is to attach your files here (Inventor and SolidWorks) and professionals from around the world might show you different techniques they would use (there is often more than one "right" solution).

[ampster40]

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Where's the eating popcorn emoticon when ya need it!

This is good entertainment even though it appears to not be going anywhere.

Cheers to those of you who put up with this.

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[Anonymous]

Lol i know i get a new email every 15 minutes it seems from this thread.

[Anonymous]

These bad colleges area a dime a dozen, the only way to know they are bad, is by first talking to other graduates. I and my fellow graduates turned in a letter about the solitaire playing instead of instructing in our AutoCAD classes in 2005 as well as some other very childish antics, that same teacher retired this year, 7 years after they received our letter. I spoke to one of the deans at my current college about poor teachings of the trigonometry teacher, and she basically jumped on his side, and dismissed everything I said. These bad schools have marketing campaigns across the tv hat make them look like good schools, when clearly they aren't. These marketing campaigns brainwash locals into thinking man, we have a great school here in town, but once you graduate, you're just a number in the local company black book that won't get hired, cause they know how bad of a school it really is, they just keep their findings to themselves. I was actually told this by an employer after graduting, he hired me as a temp, not as a permanent hire for just this reason. This employer is a fortune 500 company- Tyson Foods Inc. Inventor is just not being called upon in my part of the country, solidworks is, therefore they can require people to exit the Inventor class inefficiently because they'll never use it again, therefore the shortcomings will never be noticed as long as the soldiworks teachings are up to par. So suing a school for being a bad school, that's an idea, but youd have to find a probono (sp) attorney. Dateline just did a story on bad schools about a month ago, they are as numerous as people change their socks. There is no way to distinguish good from bad schools. You would have to have proof of poor teaching, they'd just say the student was a poor student, and make up some excuse why if this was the fact did the student get straight As or graduate with honors. THere are a lot of injustices in this world, and bad colleges are one of them.

[Anonymous]

Might I ask which college you are currently attending?  It's disappointing that they would have such horrible Instructors.  No matter what you end up deciding to do, I would definitely register a complaint about the training you are receiving.

I sent you the information. Let me know if you need anything else!

[Anonymous]

I tried my hand at Creo this summer, well Pro/E 5.0 on my own with a SHam Tickoo book, and couldn't get past the dimension command not working, and not working like Sham said it would, I gave up after 3 days or an 10 hours total time to figure out one command that wouldn't work no matter what I did. The command and I gave up when my future job lead in Pro/E/ Creo fell through. I only cited Sham Tickoo because he's the foundation of our teachings and would detail where I'm coming from. Man 24 hours, I figured you had a lengthy course.

[JDMather]

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@Anonymous wrote:

. Man 24 hours, I figured you had a lengthy course.

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I did have an excellent teacher for both classes.  But don't forget the 11 years here seeing how others solve their Inventor (or SolidWorks or Creo) problems.

[jletcher]

I can't remember but in states it may vary but what you need to do is get well, here in Florida anyway is get 250 people to sign a form this will start a class action suit against them and any lawyer will jump in. I had to sue a Motorcycle shop for my warranty I was told by every lawyer good luck then when I got 250 others involved I had lawyers calling me left and right. We all picked one and we won. We each got or extended warranty money back and then some the lawyer was then paid by the bike shop..

[Anonymous]

Sorry I'd rather not mention the name of the current college, because I'm still a student, I tried to register a compalint about the Trig teacher and they wouldn't even listen, in fact two us did out of a class of ten. Most people know what Trig is, to file a complaint on Inventor they'd say what's that, then they would turn to the one teacher on campus that teaches it to elaborate. I'd gladly give the name of the college where I used to live that throws the book at you, while the teacher plays solitaire. Western Iowa Tech Community College . This teacher taught like this from 1994 to 2012, and I even spoke to several people that turned him in, yet he was still allowed to teach at the college.

[JDMather]

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@Anonymous wrote:

You're only as good as your teacher/ book, and school. ....

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There has been a lot of blame laid on teachers/book/school in this thread.

I certainly would not let any of these factors limit me.

I didn't find anyone around here who has Tickoo's book, but I downloaded the PowerPoints for his book and apparently all of Chapter 3 covers dimensioning and constraining sketches.  Looks like you didn't read the book.

I can only lay responsibility for reading the book on the student
Did your parents pay for this class?  The government? (in other words us, the taxpayers)