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Model Data empty in BOM

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Formsprag
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Model Data empty in BOM

Has anyone ever seen this? Nothing showing up in "Model Data" or "Structured", it seems to be fine in the "Parts Only" tab. Any help here would be great!

 

Inventor 2020.2.1

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Message 21 of 25
-niels-
in reply to: johnsonshiue

@johnsonshiue I encountered this issue today as well (IV2023.2).

The common steps seem to be a copy design from Vault with a replace.

As noted the "promote/demote" workflow fixed this.

I'm sending you an email with my files and steps, since it wasn't an assembly with that many parts.

Hope you can track down this bug.


Niels van der Veer
Inventor professional user & 3DS Max enthusiast
Vault professional user/manager
The Netherlands

Message 22 of 25
johnsonshiue
in reply to: -niels-

Hi Niels,

 

Many thanks for sharing the files! I will need to work with the project teams (Inventor and Vault) to figure things out. At the moment, it is hard to tell where the bug is located. It is possible the process of replicating the files is wrong. Or, the Inventor API calls used in the process is wrong. If I have any meaningful update, I will let you know.

Thanks again!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 23 of 25
steve_lindley
in reply to: Formsprag

I've just experienced this bug for myself. I have an assembly with 16,721 components and the Bill of Materials, is slow to load and when it does, both the Model Data and Structured tabs are blank, yet the Parts Only seems fine.

 

I am using Inventor Professional 2025.0.1, Build 162.

 

Since opening the assembly, other than correcting a few broken constraints, I have demoted two sub-assemblies. No copy design performed and we don't use Vault. Also, no ipt and iam mix up.

 

Given what I've read here, perhaps the demotion was the issue. Did anyone here get to the root cause? Is there an easy and quick way to tell which sub-assembly is corrupted?

 

Following the advice from @johnsonshiue in post #4, I tried the following:

 

In the first sub-assembly, I promoted the components back out. Then tried to open the BOM. Still blank.

I used undo to place those components back as I need them.

In the second sub-assembly, I promoted the components back out and tried to open the BOM. Still blank.

With the components from the second sub-assembly still promoted, I hit save, then checked the BOM. Still blank.

Deleted the empty sub-assembly. Hit save and checked the BOM. Still blank.

Promoted the components out of the first assembly again. Hit save and checked the BOM. Still blank.

Deleted the empty sub-assembly. Hit save and checked the BOM. Still blank.

Used 'Place' to re-insert my two empty sub-assemblies back into the top level. BOM still blank.

Had to open each of the empty sub-assemblies and place a random part into it before I could return to the top level assembly and drag the original components in the browser tree, to demote them back in. Hit save after re-creating each sub-assembly. BOM still blank. 

Closed the whole assembly. Closed Inventor. Restarted and re-opened the assembly. BOM still blank.

I'm at a loss where to look next.

 

The only other detail I can think to share, is that the components that I am demoting and promoting are hydraulic cylinders, which are flexible assemblies themselves. We buy these cylinders off-the-shelf and then weld a small tab to them, so I wanted to reflect that in the models. Hence demoting them. When demoted, I obviously had to change the new sub-assembly to flexible too and I wasn't sure how Inventor would handle this. However, that functionality seems to work fine.

 

Ultimately, I need to update a drawing of my top level assembly, which has a parts list that is missing loads of lines, so until I can find a fix to this, I am stuck. Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

Many thanks

Steve

Message 24 of 25
steve_lindley
in reply to: Formsprag

Update to previous post:

 

Since I only discovered the problem today I have examined the work I'd done, which involved demoting some sub-assemblies and initially suspected those. However, having now been through all my sub-assemblies I have found a BOM problem in an unrelated iam.

Strangely, in the corrupted sub-assembly, in the BOM, I can see items on the structured and parts only tabs. Only the model data tab is blank.

I have individually checked everything below this and that all seems fine. 

We typically install the newest versions of Inventor as soon as they are released, so we've been on 2025 since the end of March. This assembly would have been created from a 'Save and Replace' and the file properties suggest this was in July, so I don't think this is a migrating issue. 

Message 25 of 25

Hi Steve,

 

The behavior is definitely wrong. It is a bug. Are you able to reproduce it from scratch? If yes, please share the files in zip with me directly johnson.shiue@autodesk.com.

In the meantime, please try using Manage -> Rebuild All. Does it help repopulate the BOM properties in the Model Data?

Many thanks!

 

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer

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