Make part - Command

[CWC_Drawing_Office]

Hi all,

I hope I'm just blind and n missing something.

I have a multi-body part that has then been made into an assembly using the make components command. 

I have gone back to the parent file and made an additional part, I want to use the command "Make Part" to place it in the assembly.

See below screenshot, the okay button is greyed out and I cannot select it, why? 

All assistance is appreciated.

Thanks

[admaiora]

Hi,

just use make components again and choose your previous assembly

[CWC_Drawing_Office]

Hi there, I did choose my previous assembly.

For the interim the workaround I have used is to make the part and then place it in the assembly myself.

[admaiora]

Hi,

no sure which is the problem.

[Gabriel_Watson · Accepted solution]

This issue may be related to the INVGEN-57952 bug in 2022.2 (so @admaiora would not see this in 2021):

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/make-components-dialog-greyed-out-when-adding-to-exist...

Uninstall 2022.2 to see if that fixes the issue:

[CWC_Drawing_Office]

I assume that's due to you using IV2021

[CWC_Drawing_Office]

Understood, so this is just another bug thats come with the new release?

That's unfortunate.

Thanks for the reply.

[Gabriel_Watson]

Not confirmed yet, but you see there is a possibility, right? Did uninstalling the latest update fix your problem, @CWC_Drawing_Office ??

If you read the other posts about Make Components, how it was unable to add back into the assembly in the same go. Perhaps you're just seeing a similar function being used at the tail end of your process.

@sundars

[sundars]

Hi,

This looks like the same issue reported earlier in the other thread. Both Make Part and Make Components uses similar logic. The fix should be applicable to both workflows. Our apologies for the inconvenience caused - i am keeping tab on the progress of the issue and will provide updates once we fix it.

Thank
-shiva

[CWC_Drawing_Office]

@Gabriel_Watson, yes uninstalling 2022.2 fixed the issue.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi Folks,

The defect has been fixed on the 2022.2.1 update. Please install it and confirm the fix.

Many thanks!

[mhag33tg2]

While trying to implement Top Down work processes I found the Inventor Make Components command to be very hard to understand, implement and control.  I spent  2 days going back and forth between my very simple test sketches and would-be assemblies and the inadequate tutorials, reading and re-reading hard to follow instructions,  and looking over Autodesk and others you-tubes that just don't do the topic justice.  It all ended in frustration and disappointment.  The Autodesk user instructions and various you-tubes on this topic are sub-standard and not very helpful - but maybe there is a reason for that?  Inventor also crashed twice while trying to get the make components process work. 

But now - the pot of gold at at the end of the rainbow!  I later found the process for Derived parts and had good success, making several 3D components and a complex 3D assembly that I can quickly and easily control and modify from a single layout sketch.  This works much more like Fusion 360 processes.  I have abandoned the Make Components process and doubt I will ever touch it again. I post this to help others decide more quickly to avoid the Make Components / Make Part commands.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! The idea is that you create a skeletal part (with multiple solid bodies or sketch blocks). Then Make Components command pushes the selected bodies or blocks into individual parts within an assembly. This assembly can be a new one or the existing one. It sort of automates the process of deriving a part.

Do you mind showing me the exact issue with Make Parts and Make Components?

Many thanks!

[mhag33tg2]

Hi Johnson, I get the idea as you say, I just don't have the mental capacity to get it to work adequately. And now I see a better way, so have no interest in it.  I think you nail the issue with it "sort of" automates the process.  But any automation value was lost in the time taken to try to operate it. For me right now, and I think in the longer term too, what is more important than automating a process is to be able to confidently operate it and and then adequately control the result. For example, I am sure you know how bad and broken things can get when something way back in the chain did not have a precisely constrained sketch.  The Make Components command can make that worse, so does not help me in the endeavor.  

I can't say there is an exact issue with the command that I could pinpoint. The whole process seems too complicated and confusing. However someone at Autodesk requested my files following the crash reports and I sent them.   If you/Autodesk are in the mood for improving anything around the Make Components command I suggest first starting with the  user instructions, some of which can be found here.   https://help.autodesk.com/view/INVNTOR/2024/ENU/

[SBix26]

Just to be perfectly clear: the Make Parts/Make Components tools are simply a guided and more convenient method (for most users...?) to create derived parts; they are not a fundamentally different process. 

I use the multi-solid master part technique routinely.  I use Make Components when I have everything pretty much designed and ready to assemble all at once, manual deriving when I'm designing/modeling one component at a time.  The end result is the same-- an assembly of components, each derived from the master model.

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Sam B

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