How to find parameter in 3D model

[Anonymous]

Hi everybody,

There is a part with a lot of parameters. Imagine I open parameter window and I am going to find d100 in 3D model but I do not know how. When I click on d100, I see nothing in 3D model.

How can I find parameters from parameter window in 3D model? or sometimes from iLogic I am going to find a specific parameter in 3D model.

Thanks

[j.palmeL29YX]

You should find the information in the column "Consumed by".

In your example d100 is used by d563 (a formular similar to d563=d100 ...) . Now you must go to d563 and look what uses this parameter. If it is also used in another parameter repeat this. Finally you will reach a sketch or a feature what consumed this parameter. Now you can search this sketch/feature/... in the browser. Finally RMB -> "Find in Window".

[Anonymous]

Dear Palme,

I know that d100 is used in d563. But my question is:

Where is d100 in 3D model? 

Thanks

[j.palmeL29YX]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I know that d100 is used in d563. But my question is:

Where is d100 in 3D model? 

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In the parameter manager you must go to the parameter d563 and look by what it is consumed. If you find in the "consumed by" column again a parametername, got to this and so on, until you find consumed by a sketch or a feature (Extrusion, Fillet, Sweep, ...). Now find this Sketch or feature in the Browser and use the RMB to find this in the graphic screen (if you want).

Post an example-dwg here and I will show you an video.

[Anonymous]

Dear

I have attached a photo and a file in inventor 2018.

Imagine I go the part and edit sketch and dimension. There is an equation (like photo I have attached).

How can I find d100 in 3d model to understand the equation?

Thanks

[j.palmeL29YX · Accepted solution]

There is no Geometry which includes d100 directly. It is an "orphaned" (?) parameter. Maybe it was created in an old sketch and this sketch was deleted in the meantime. Or it is/was the value of an extrusion which was deleted later or similar situations. You will not find the "source" of such parameters. You can change the value of d100 only in the Parameter Manager.

See here: Orphaned parameter, an example how it might have happened.

[Daubon]

Hello All,  I have the same question.  In the previous case it seems it was an orphaned parameter.  But say it isn't.  Yes I understand that you can get close by doing your research in Parameters Manager by looking for consumed by.  Simply put, is there any way to perhaps search for the name:  "d129" and have it highlight in the 3D model?

Thanks in advance for any help!

[j.palmeL29YX]

Can you please show us an example (post the file) in which environment you're searching which parameter name?

[IgorMir]

No, it is not an orphaned dimension as some people have suggested. d100 is consumed by Flange9. It is easy to figure out if the Default Parameter Input Display is set to Display as expression. Which is highly recommended.

I would ask - why is that not reflected in Parameters DB, in Consumed by column? Usually - it is. But not in your file.

That question is better for Autodesk to answer, I suppose.

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi everybody,

There is a part with a lot of parameters. Imagine I open parameter window and I am going to find d100 in 3D model but I do not know how. When I click on d100, I see nothing in 3D model.

How can I find parameters from parameter window in 3D model? or sometimes from iLogic I am going to find a specific parameter in 3D model.

Thanks

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[Daubon]

Here is the zip file.  In particular I'd like to find where I used Reference Parameters d119 and d120.

Thanks!

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! The two reference parameters, d119 and d120 are associated with Sketch Block: CeilingNoseUP_Detail. Edit the sketch block and you will see the two driven dimensions.

Many thanks!

[Daubon]

Thanks Johnson, however rather than going through and investigative, "back tracking" process, I am more interested to know of there is a direct way say in the sense of "show inputs" to find the location in the model.  At the least, could you describe the methodology you used to find them?

Again many thanks!

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! The way I found it was pretty low-tech. We have an internal debug tool to show the dependency of a given object. From a user's perspective, you would need to delete all sketches to see if the reference parameters are deleted. After a few attempts, I was able to find that the dimensions were in the sketch block definition. In some cases, these parameters could have been corrupted, but in your case fortunately.

Many thanks!

[Daubon]

Thanks to you Johnson!  Good Day!

[Hunteil]

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@johnsonshiue wrote:

Hi! The way I found it was pretty low-tech. We have an internal debug tool to show the dependency of a given object. From a user's perspective, you would need to delete all sketches to see if the reference parameters are deleted. After a few attempts, I was able to find that the dimensions were in the sketch block definition. In some cases, these parameters could have been corrupted, but in your case fortunately.

Many thanks!

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This sounds like a needed improvement to me now. The "consumed by" column in the Parameters screen has always been my go to solution when someone asks me this question. I haven't thought of it b/c I thought it was rather straight forward. But it dawned on me in my current project. I have a highly complex model I'm trying to develop into a template for a customer and realize now that there's just no way to easily find that info quickly. "Consumed by" should also state which sketch it is used by. Or it should be in a new column. This would be a time saver.