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How can I create a 3D Sectional Perspective View in IDW?

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How can I create a 3D Sectional Perspective View in IDW?

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I am trying to show a 3D sectional perspective view of a Kitchen I have modelled for a client.

The drawing is in as a part file (not assembly) and I can create great sectioned camera views but I can't then insert these into my IDW unless I import it as a png. which I then have to reimport every time the model is updated.

Is there a way to import my camera view showing the section? When I try to insert it in the Drawing View and choose my created camera view, it doesn't show it as the section view. 

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How can I create a 3D Sectional Perspective View in IDW?

I am trying to show a 3D sectional perspective view of a Kitchen I have modelled for a client.

The drawing is in as a part file (not assembly) and I can create great sectioned camera views but I can't then insert these into my IDW unless I import it as a png. which I then have to reimport every time the model is updated.

Is there a way to import my camera view showing the section? When I try to insert it in the Drawing View and choose my created camera view, it doesn't show it as the section view. 

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SharkDesign
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As far as I know you can't do a perspective sectional. 

 

Here's a work around though. 

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/4048abfc-00ea-4e79-8911-b7d2622a2949

 

 

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As far as I know you can't do a perspective sectional. 

 

Here's a work around though. 

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/4048abfc-00ea-4e79-8911-b7d2622a2949

 

 

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sales
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Thank you

While it's not exactly what I'm after, it is definitely a better work around than what I was doing.

Appreciate it. 

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Thank you

While it's not exactly what I'm after, it is definitely a better work around than what I was doing.

Appreciate it. 

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cadman777
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If I understand you correctly, then this is how I do it:

A. Easy way:

1. Place the main view off the page.

2. Make a section cut on that view or on a projected view.

3. Make a Custom view from that section cut and put it on the page.

B. Hard way:

1. Derive the assembly (in this case it's a part) into another part.

2. Cut-away the segments of the part that you want to eliminate.

3. Open that Derived part in your idw file and make a Custom view.

4. You must make sure your cut-away segments will match the orientation of your Custom view, so you have to plan ahead.

       I've done jagged cut-aways of assemblies that were otherwise impossible to show using the Section tools in the idw. I've also done 1/2 sections (taking a full wedge cut) like that on circular assemblies to show all the parts (shaft features, bearings, seals, snap rings, etc.).

       Examples using method 'A':

cadman777_0-1624039040593.jpeg

cadman777_1-1624039436323.jpeg

 

 

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If I understand you correctly, then this is how I do it:

A. Easy way:

1. Place the main view off the page.

2. Make a section cut on that view or on a projected view.

3. Make a Custom view from that section cut and put it on the page.

B. Hard way:

1. Derive the assembly (in this case it's a part) into another part.

2. Cut-away the segments of the part that you want to eliminate.

3. Open that Derived part in your idw file and make a Custom view.

4. You must make sure your cut-away segments will match the orientation of your Custom view, so you have to plan ahead.

       I've done jagged cut-aways of assemblies that were otherwise impossible to show using the Section tools in the idw. I've also done 1/2 sections (taking a full wedge cut) like that on circular assemblies to show all the parts (shaft features, bearings, seals, snap rings, etc.).

       Examples using method 'A':

cadman777_0-1624039040593.jpeg

cadman777_1-1624039436323.jpeg

 

 

... Chris
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@cadman777 If you use method A, how do you get a perspective view?

I can't get that to work. 

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@cadman777 If you use method A, how do you get a perspective view?

I can't get that to work. 

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cadman777
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Maybe I misunderstand what you mean when you say 'perspective view'?

I just make the view Sketch and make a Breakout View on a standard orthographic view in the drawing, and then take a standard Projected view from that view. I'm using Inventor 2010, so maybe it doesn't have all the kinds of drawing views you're talking about?

What specifically do you mean by Perspective view?

Are you talking about the View type in the 3d model but not in the drawing?

Find attached an example of how I do it using a Projected view.

If that view wasn't what I needed, then I'd use a Custom view form the Projected view dialogue.

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Maybe I misunderstand what you mean when you say 'perspective view'?

I just make the view Sketch and make a Breakout View on a standard orthographic view in the drawing, and then take a standard Projected view from that view. I'm using Inventor 2010, so maybe it doesn't have all the kinds of drawing views you're talking about?

What specifically do you mean by Perspective view?

Are you talking about the View type in the 3d model but not in the drawing?

Find attached an example of how I do it using a Projected view.

If that view wasn't what I needed, then I'd use a Custom view form the Projected view dialogue.

... Chris
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@cadman777 The OP specifically wanted their sectional view to be perspective (i.e. with a vanishing point) which I don't think you can do in a drawing, only on a full view. 

That's why I wondered how you were achieving it with your first method. 

Both your examples are orthographic. 

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@cadman777 The OP specifically wanted their sectional view to be perspective (i.e. with a vanishing point) which I don't think you can do in a drawing, only on a full view. 

That's why I wondered how you were achieving it with your first method. 

Both your examples are orthographic. 

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cadman777
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OK, now I understand. Thanx for clarifying.

 

I've never used a perspective view in all the years doing drawings.

I guess that's an architectural presentation thing.

Not many people use Inventor for architectural stuff.

I've not even seen it on all the architectural drawings sent to me for use in picking off the structural and miscellaneous stuff that needed detailing for fabrication.

 

However, there are other CAD programs much more suited to that kind of work, esp. for cabinetry or framing or block and poured concrete, etc Same with architectural millwork.

 

In the OP's case, I would use method B, then position the part/assembly as needed and take a screen shot of it, then bring that screen shot into a photo editing program and make the background transparent, then insert that pic into a sketch in the idw file. I've done that over the years when needing to use (but not manually duplicate) specs and detail views taken out of Standards (e.g., ASME Pressure Vessels, API Tanks, Miscellaneous Structural, OSHA for Industry, ADA, etc.). Just make a photocopy of the page, crop the view, make the background transparent, then insert the finished pic into an idw sketch.

... Chris
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OK, now I understand. Thanx for clarifying.

 

I've never used a perspective view in all the years doing drawings.

I guess that's an architectural presentation thing.

Not many people use Inventor for architectural stuff.

I've not even seen it on all the architectural drawings sent to me for use in picking off the structural and miscellaneous stuff that needed detailing for fabrication.

 

However, there are other CAD programs much more suited to that kind of work, esp. for cabinetry or framing or block and poured concrete, etc Same with architectural millwork.

 

In the OP's case, I would use method B, then position the part/assembly as needed and take a screen shot of it, then bring that screen shot into a photo editing program and make the background transparent, then insert that pic into a sketch in the idw file. I've done that over the years when needing to use (but not manually duplicate) specs and detail views taken out of Standards (e.g., ASME Pressure Vessels, API Tanks, Miscellaneous Structural, OSHA for Industry, ADA, etc.). Just make a photocopy of the page, crop the view, make the background transparent, then insert the finished pic into an idw sketch.

... Chris
Win 7 Pro 64 bit + IV 2010 Suite
ASUS X79 Deluxe
Intel i7 3820 4.4 O/C
64 Gig ADATA RAM
Nvidia Quadro M5000 8 Gig
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