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So, i have a whole load of parts in an assembly, and there are sketches in these parts, on these sketches are geometries that have been projected from other parts in the assembly. So they are cross part references.
Initially the sketches and the respective parts were adaptive. When i made changes the references updated etc..
However, for some reason the adaptivity has been turned off, and the option is greyed out. As a result the cross part projections on the sketches don't update but don't throw any errors either. So if i delete them and try to re-project them, Inventor tells me that the part is adaptive in another assembly and the cross part projection failed.
This simply isn't true, i don't have any other assemblies, and it worked fine last week when i created the assembly.
Trouble is the error message doesn't give me any direction it tells me something is wrong. Is there anyway of finding out how many assemblies inventor thinks the part is in? or clearing/resetting adaptivity on the part itself so i can start re jig everything without havin gto recreate the offending parts?
note: some of the parts in the assembly are fine, its only a couple that are being problematic.
The data set is MASSIVE so i would rather not post it just yet.
I'm tearing my hair out on this one, anyy help would be appreciated.
cheers
Initially the sketches and the respective parts were adaptive. When i made changes the references updated etc..
However, for some reason the adaptivity has been turned off, and the option is greyed out. As a result the cross part projections on the sketches don't update but don't throw any errors either. So if i delete them and try to re-project them, Inventor tells me that the part is adaptive in another assembly and the cross part projection failed.
This simply isn't true, i don't have any other assemblies, and it worked fine last week when i created the assembly.
Trouble is the error message doesn't give me any direction it tells me something is wrong. Is there anyway of finding out how many assemblies inventor thinks the part is in? or clearing/resetting adaptivity on the part itself so i can start re jig everything without havin gto recreate the offending parts?
note: some of the parts in the assembly are fine, its only a couple that are being problematic.
The data set is MASSIVE so i would rather not post it just yet.
I'm tearing my hair out on this one, anyy help would be appreciated.
cheers
Scott Moyse
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So, i have a whole load of parts in an assembly, and there are sketches in these parts, on these sketches are geometries that have been projected from other parts in the assembly. So they are cross part references.
Initially the sketches and the respective parts were adaptive. When i made changes the references updated etc..
However, for some reason the adaptivity has been turned off, and the option is greyed out. As a result the cross part projections on the sketches don't update but don't throw any errors either. So if i delete them and try to re-project them, Inventor tells me that the part is adaptive in another assembly and the cross part projection failed.
This simply isn't true, i don't have any other assemblies, and it worked fine last week when i created the assembly.
Trouble is the error message doesn't give me any direction it tells me something is wrong. Is there anyway of finding out how many assemblies inventor thinks the part is in? or clearing/resetting adaptivity on the part itself so i can start re jig everything without havin gto recreate the offending parts?
note: some of the parts in the assembly are fine, its only a couple that are being problematic.
The data set is MASSIVE so i would rather not post it just yet.
I'm tearing my hair out on this one, anyy help would be appreciated.
cheers
Initially the sketches and the respective parts were adaptive. When i made changes the references updated etc..
However, for some reason the adaptivity has been turned off, and the option is greyed out. As a result the cross part projections on the sketches don't update but don't throw any errors either. So if i delete them and try to re-project them, Inventor tells me that the part is adaptive in another assembly and the cross part projection failed.
This simply isn't true, i don't have any other assemblies, and it worked fine last week when i created the assembly.
Trouble is the error message doesn't give me any direction it tells me something is wrong. Is there anyway of finding out how many assemblies inventor thinks the part is in? or clearing/resetting adaptivity on the part itself so i can start re jig everything without havin gto recreate the offending parts?
note: some of the parts in the assembly are fine, its only a couple that are being problematic.
The data set is MASSIVE so i would rather not post it just yet.
I'm tearing my hair out on this one, anyy help would be appreciated.
cheers
Scott Moyse
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i definately need them to be adaptive.
thanks for your input but none of you suggestions would be helpful.
When the assembly & parts were created everything worked fine, i could make changes and everythign worked sweet and has done for 2 months.
The weird thing is Inventor thinks the parts are adaptive in another assembly, but they are only in 1 assembly.
thanks for your input but none of you suggestions would be helpful.
When the assembly & parts were created everything worked fine, i could make changes and everythign worked sweet and has done for 2 months.
The weird thing is Inventor thinks the parts are adaptive in another assembly, but they are only in 1 assembly.
Scott Moyse
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i definately need them to be adaptive.
thanks for your input but none of you suggestions would be helpful.
When the assembly & parts were created everything worked fine, i could make changes and everythign worked sweet and has done for 2 months.
The weird thing is Inventor thinks the parts are adaptive in another assembly, but they are only in 1 assembly.
thanks for your input but none of you suggestions would be helpful.
When the assembly & parts were created everything worked fine, i could make changes and everythign worked sweet and has done for 2 months.
The weird thing is Inventor thinks the parts are adaptive in another assembly, but they are only in 1 assembly.
Scott Moyse
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Scott,
You can clear the adaptivity of the part by opening
the part and going to "Document Settings"->Modeling and unchecking "".
Save the part. Now in the assembly that references the part you should be
able to set that part as adaptive.
the part and going to "Document Settings"->Modeling and unchecking "".
Save the part. Now in the assembly that references the part you should be
able to set that part as adaptive.
Is this what you need?
- Matt
<scottmoyse> wrote in message news:6283912@discussion.autodesk.com...So,
i have a whole load of parts in an assembly, and there are sketches in these
parts, on these sketches are geometries that have been projected from other
parts in the assembly. So they are cross part references.
Initially
the sketches and the respective parts were adaptive. When i made changes the
references updated etc..
However, for some reason the adaptivity has
been turned off, and the option is greyed out. As a result the cross part
projections on the sketches don't update but don't throw any errors either. So
if i delete them and try to re-project them, Inventor tells me that the part
is adaptive in another assembly and the cross part projection
failed.
This simply isn't true, i don't have any other assemblies, and
it worked fine last week when i created the assembly.
Trouble is the
error message doesn't give me any direction it tells me something is wrong. Is
there anyway of finding out how many assemblies inventor thinks the part is
in? or clearing/resetting adaptivity on the part itself so i can start re jig
everything without havin gto recreate the offending parts?
note: some
of the parts in the assembly are fine, its only a couple that are being
problematic.
The data set is MASSIVE so i would rather not post it
just yet.
I'm tearing my hair out on this one, anyy help would be
appreciated.
cheers
Scott,
You can clear the adaptivity of the part by opening
the part and going to "Document Settings"->Modeling and unchecking "".
Save the part. Now in the assembly that references the part you should be
able to set that part as adaptive.
the part and going to "Document Settings"->Modeling and unchecking "".
Save the part. Now in the assembly that references the part you should be
able to set that part as adaptive.
Is this what you need?
- Matt
<scottmoyse> wrote in message news:6283912@discussion.autodesk.com...So,
i have a whole load of parts in an assembly, and there are sketches in these
parts, on these sketches are geometries that have been projected from other
parts in the assembly. So they are cross part references.
Initially
the sketches and the respective parts were adaptive. When i made changes the
references updated etc..
However, for some reason the adaptivity has
been turned off, and the option is greyed out. As a result the cross part
projections on the sketches don't update but don't throw any errors either. So
if i delete them and try to re-project them, Inventor tells me that the part
is adaptive in another assembly and the cross part projection
failed.
This simply isn't true, i don't have any other assemblies, and
it worked fine last week when i created the assembly.
Trouble is the
error message doesn't give me any direction it tells me something is wrong. Is
there anyway of finding out how many assemblies inventor thinks the part is
in? or clearing/resetting adaptivity on the part itself so i can start re jig
everything without havin gto recreate the offending parts?
note: some
of the parts in the assembly are fine, its only a couple that are being
problematic.
The data set is MASSIVE so i would rather not post it
just yet.
I'm tearing my hair out on this one, anyy help would be
appreciated.
cheers
Thats pukka mate! seems silly that an adaptive tick option is in two locations, this one and under the occurence tab in the iproperties of the part when accessed from the browser tree in the assembly. I had been told this other tick box existed but none of us could find it, so thanks for that. I've needed it a few times now and in the past have just had to remake the part from scratch.
You have saved 50% of my rework to fix this. Trouble is now i can clear the adaptivity properly the references in the sketch disappear but the geometries remain with projected constraints, as they would appear if you projected each edge individually instead of projecting the face. However, they still don't adjust, presumably because they have lost the link path back through to the source part via the assembly.
What i don't understand, is how sporadic this problem has occured, in 1 assembly it has only happened to 2 of 15 parts that were adaptive. In another assembly every single part that was adaptive in that assembly now isn't, but is still adpative within itself. And the rest of the project all of the assemblies and adaptive parts work great.
Any ideas on how to deal with this?
You have saved 50% of my rework to fix this. Trouble is now i can clear the adaptivity properly the references in the sketch disappear but the geometries remain with projected constraints, as they would appear if you projected each edge individually instead of projecting the face. However, they still don't adjust, presumably because they have lost the link path back through to the source part via the assembly.
What i don't understand, is how sporadic this problem has occured, in 1 assembly it has only happened to 2 of 15 parts that were adaptive. In another assembly every single part that was adaptive in that assembly now isn't, but is still adpative within itself. And the rest of the project all of the assemblies and adaptive parts work great.
Any ideas on how to deal with this?
Scott Moyse
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Thats pukka mate! seems silly that an adaptive tick option is in two locations, this one and under the occurence tab in the iproperties of the part when accessed from the browser tree in the assembly. I had been told this other tick box existed but none of us could find it, so thanks for that. I've needed it a few times now and in the past have just had to remake the part from scratch.
You have saved 50% of my rework to fix this. Trouble is now i can clear the adaptivity properly the references in the sketch disappear but the geometries remain with projected constraints, as they would appear if you projected each edge individually instead of projecting the face. However, they still don't adjust, presumably because they have lost the link path back through to the source part via the assembly.
What i don't understand, is how sporadic this problem has occured, in 1 assembly it has only happened to 2 of 15 parts that were adaptive. In another assembly every single part that was adaptive in that assembly now isn't, but is still adpative within itself. And the rest of the project all of the assemblies and adaptive parts work great.
Any ideas on how to deal with this?
You have saved 50% of my rework to fix this. Trouble is now i can clear the adaptivity properly the references in the sketch disappear but the geometries remain with projected constraints, as they would appear if you projected each edge individually instead of projecting the face. However, they still don't adjust, presumably because they have lost the link path back through to the source part via the assembly.
What i don't understand, is how sporadic this problem has occured, in 1 assembly it has only happened to 2 of 15 parts that were adaptive. In another assembly every single part that was adaptive in that assembly now isn't, but is still adpative within itself. And the rest of the project all of the assemblies and adaptive parts work great.
Any ideas on how to deal with this?
Scott Moyse
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Sorry i used US because i asked my colleagues if they knew where that setting was, as one of them mentioned it existed a few months ago. I am the only one with read/write access to these parts and the only one who has been working on them. I definately would have considered this otherwise.
With regards to the option being in two places. Why can't the occurance tab appear in the iProperties of the part, when you access the iProps from the part. That way it would only be in one place and you could achieve the same thing.
The occurance tab doesn't appear in the iProps of the assy but only appears in the iProps of the part when you access them via the assy browser and right click on the part node.
I understand why you guys have done what you have, but it seems it could be done in one area that appears in two places.
Either way i know its there now so it makes no difference to me.
butt... I still have this problem.
It's looking more and more like i need to pack and go the data set and send it to tech support.
With regards to the option being in two places. Why can't the occurance tab appear in the iProperties of the part, when you access the iProps from the part. That way it would only be in one place and you could achieve the same thing.
The occurance tab doesn't appear in the iProps of the assy but only appears in the iProps of the part when you access them via the assy browser and right click on the part node.
I understand why you guys have done what you have, but it seems it could be done in one area that appears in two places.
Either way i know its there now so it makes no difference to me.
butt... I still have this problem.
It's looking more and more like i need to pack and go the data set and send it to tech support.
Scott Moyse
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Sorry i used US because i asked my colleagues if they knew where that setting was, as one of them mentioned it existed a few months ago. I am the only one with read/write access to these parts and the only one who has been working on them. I definately would have considered this otherwise.
With regards to the option being in two places. Why can't the occurance tab appear in the iProperties of the part, when you access the iProps from the part. That way it would only be in one place and you could achieve the same thing.
The occurance tab doesn't appear in the iProps of the assy but only appears in the iProps of the part when you access them via the assy browser and right click on the part node.
I understand why you guys have done what you have, but it seems it could be done in one area that appears in two places.
Either way i know its there now so it makes no difference to me.
butt... I still have this problem.
It's looking more and more like i need to pack and go the data set and send it to tech support.
With regards to the option being in two places. Why can't the occurance tab appear in the iProperties of the part, when you access the iProps from the part. That way it would only be in one place and you could achieve the same thing.
The occurance tab doesn't appear in the iProps of the assy but only appears in the iProps of the part when you access them via the assy browser and right click on the part node.
I understand why you guys have done what you have, but it seems it could be done in one area that appears in two places.
Either way i know its there now so it makes no difference to me.
butt... I still have this problem.
It's looking more and more like i need to pack and go the data set and send it to tech support.
Scott Moyse
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Good points, definately need the occurance thing when there is more than one instance of a part. But having it all in one place would be helpful as we have established.
If I had found a workflow that replicated it i would be over the moon, since i probably would have cracked it by now. If i do i will post back here. I have a suspicion LOD's could be at fault. But at the same time i would be surprised. I have also had some weird database errors caused by projected arcs coming through as splines, they represent themselves as light blue unconstrained points. Editing the offending sketch and deleting the spline with the unconstrained points gets rid of the database errors.
Although this didn't happen to the parts in question, it did happen to one of the parts in one of the problematic assemblies. So i am wondering if the database got corrupted somehow. Causing inv to think the parts were adaptive in another assembly and clearing the adaptivity in the occurance.
Anyway i will continue to work on it and maybe i will fin dout what is wrong and/or give u pand send the dataset to tech support.
If I had found a workflow that replicated it i would be over the moon, since i probably would have cracked it by now. If i do i will post back here. I have a suspicion LOD's could be at fault. But at the same time i would be surprised. I have also had some weird database errors caused by projected arcs coming through as splines, they represent themselves as light blue unconstrained points. Editing the offending sketch and deleting the spline with the unconstrained points gets rid of the database errors.
Although this didn't happen to the parts in question, it did happen to one of the parts in one of the problematic assemblies. So i am wondering if the database got corrupted somehow. Causing inv to think the parts were adaptive in another assembly and clearing the adaptivity in the occurance.
Anyway i will continue to work on it and maybe i will fin dout what is wrong and/or give u pand send the dataset to tech support.
Scott Moyse
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Good points, definately need the occurance thing when there is more than one instance of a part. But having it all in one place would be helpful as we have established.
If I had found a workflow that replicated it i would be over the moon, since i probably would have cracked it by now. If i do i will post back here. I have a suspicion LOD's could be at fault. But at the same time i would be surprised. I have also had some weird database errors caused by projected arcs coming through as splines, they represent themselves as light blue unconstrained points. Editing the offending sketch and deleting the spline with the unconstrained points gets rid of the database errors.
Although this didn't happen to the parts in question, it did happen to one of the parts in one of the problematic assemblies. So i am wondering if the database got corrupted somehow. Causing inv to think the parts were adaptive in another assembly and clearing the adaptivity in the occurance.
Anyway i will continue to work on it and maybe i will fin dout what is wrong and/or give u pand send the dataset to tech support.
If I had found a workflow that replicated it i would be over the moon, since i probably would have cracked it by now. If i do i will post back here. I have a suspicion LOD's could be at fault. But at the same time i would be surprised. I have also had some weird database errors caused by projected arcs coming through as splines, they represent themselves as light blue unconstrained points. Editing the offending sketch and deleting the spline with the unconstrained points gets rid of the database errors.
Although this didn't happen to the parts in question, it did happen to one of the parts in one of the problematic assemblies. So i am wondering if the database got corrupted somehow. Causing inv to think the parts were adaptive in another assembly and clearing the adaptivity in the occurance.
Anyway i will continue to work on it and maybe i will fin dout what is wrong and/or give u pand send the dataset to tech support.
Scott Moyse
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